tinfoilhat Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 52 minutes ago, Janus said: If a person cannot find enough to do with their time away from work, there is something wrong in my opinion. Absolutely, certainly if you're financially secure because you're then taking a job from a younger person who needs it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ontarian1981 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said: Absolutely, certainly if you're financially secure because you're then taking a job from a younger person who needs it. Good point, what ever happened to the incentives for early retirement, so as to bring in young folks with kids and mortgages? 75 lol, I'd love to see folks doing what I did up to 75. People were amazed that I lasted until 69. Those guys in the Think Tank should get the lid put on the tank and weld it up, just for even think about this. Edited August 18, 2019 by Ontarian1981 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 1 hour ago, ECCOnoob said: Your completely misleading thread title goes perfectly with the completely misleading news headline. Where exactly is this "tory plan" to raise the pension age?? Who has actually said they are implimenting such a thing? Also, if they actually did proceed with such proposal - would that really be such a bad thing considering the average life expectancy has increased massively since the original pension age was set. The "population" dont like a lot of things but it doesn't mean that its not good for them. Anyway, back on topic - its completely obvious that "a think tank has proposed" does not default to automatic policy and law. Think tanks by their very function propose lots of things all the time - doesn't mean that parliament takes notice. As others have said, sometimes they do, sometimes they dont. Either way such "plans" would have to get through series of endless consultations, research, studies, policy drafts, committees, discussions and votes before it becomes anywhere near to what can be accurately described as "planning to...." Jesus, I know the Daily Mirror is not exactly known for thier quality journalism but they are faster and faster becoming as bad the The Canary with their rediculously sensationalised and completely biased excrement disguised as "news stories". this think tank has proposed a lot of things that past tory governments HAVE enacted, pensions and pension age is a big one that they keep looking at, trying to lower their welfare bill. I think this one WILL go through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Gee Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, melthebell said: this think tank has proposed a lot of things that past tory governments HAVE enacted, pensions and pension age is a big one that they keep looking at, trying to lower their welfare bill. I think this one WILL go through Does anyone know who funds this think tank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longcol Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, Mister Gee said: Does anyone know who funds this think tank? Not really - they aren't that forthcoming with the informaion. http://whofundsyou.org/org/centre-for-social-justice Although their "score" has improved from E. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin-H Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, Mister Gee said: Does anyone know who funds this think tank? http://www.centreforsocialjustice.org.uk/support "The CSJ is a not-for-profit organisation and we pride ourselves on our independence. Our work involves persuading the government to change its policies and laws, and therefore we do not take any government money. Instead, we are reliant on the contributions of individual private supporters, corporate sponsors and trusts and foundations, who share our commitment to putting social justice at the heart of British politics. Our views and policy recommendations are based purely on our research, and we will not accept any source of funding where a funder seeks to influence these. We undertake due diligence to ensure that accepting a source of funds will not compromise our independence." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ontarian1981 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, Mister Gee said: Does anyone know who funds this think tank? 75 year old rich folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Gee Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, Longcol said: Not really - they aren't that forthcoming with the informaion. http://whofundsyou.org/org/centre-for-social-justice Although their "score" has improved from E. I thought so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ontarian1981 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 (edited) 41 minutes ago, melthebell said: this think tank has proposed a lot of things that past tory governments HAVE enacted, pensions and pension age is a big one that they keep looking at, trying to lower their welfare bill. I think this one WILL go through Well this one could raise their Welfare bill and NHS costs even more than the savings in pension. I was on no medications at 65 with perfect eyesight. Almost at 75 now and I am on all kinds of meds and only one eye works properly, well almost properly. Oh and my income is basically made up of pensions from both countries I have lived, worked and paid all taxes and health care premiums into.. So basically I would have to have been kept somehow this last 6 years(retired on health grounds at 69) if I hadn't been paid pensions. Edited August 18, 2019 by Ontarian1981 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Hardie Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 49 minutes ago, melthebell said: this think tank has proposed a lot of things that past tory governments HAVE enacted, pensions and pension age is a big one that they keep looking at, trying to lower their welfare bill. I think this one WILL go through Presently, it is scheduled to go up to 67 in 2026 (brought forward from 2034) and up to 68 in 2044. Yes, it is a case of ever moving goalposts but to raise it to 75 is the equivalent of shifting them out to the corner flag. It will happen one day but at that rate it won't be 'til we're all dead and gone. There again, if we leave the EU with no deal, it might just go up to 95 on November 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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