Nhs And Non-Medical Surgery

[vwkittie]

I think sterilisation absolutely should be available on the NHS to women and men. I don't see why it 'isn't contraception'? That's exactly what it is.

 

Other forms of contraception are already available on the NHS and rightly so, and for women in particular they can have negative side effects and presumably cost the NHS a lot anyway (supplying the pill for your whole reproductive lifespan for example).

 

The cost to the NHS of unwanted pregnancies and the associated terminations/maternal care must surely be great too.

 

If a one-off routine operation can be done instead for those that want it, why on earth not? 

 

I do agree that it should of course only be done after counselling and some sort of waiting period, but four years seems a bit excessive.

[El Cid]

2 minutes ago, vwkittie said:

I think sterilisation absolutely should be available on the NHS to women and men. I don't see why it 'isn't contraception'? That's exactly what it is.

I have just been watched Channel 5s Doctors program. A married man with 2 children asked the doc for a vasectomy, he was told that their policy was to exhaust other types of contraception first, because a vasectomy carries a greater risk.

So his wife has to see the doc and get the corect contraception, which itself has benefits to her.

23 minutes ago, Janus said:

Just curious.

When you say wrong, do you mean because it is on the nhs, or wrong because she is only age 30 and has no children while some women would do almost anything to conceive?

 

Because she would be cutting a healthy body for non medical reasons.

[vwkittie]

Just now, El Cid said:

I have just been watched Channel 5s Doctors program. A married man with 2 children asked the doc for a vasectomy, he was told that their policy was to exhaust other types of contraception first, because a vasectomy carries a greater risk.

So his wife has to see the doc and get the corect contraception, which itself has benefits to her.

That's crazy! What is the 'correct' contraception for a woman then? All forms of hormonal contraception carry risks for women, as do some non-hormonal such as the IUD.

 

I'd be absolutely furious if that had happened to me and my partner.

[El Cid]

11 minutes ago, vwkittie said:

That's crazy! What is the 'correct' contraception for a woman then? All forms of hormonal contraception carry risks for women, as do some non-hormonal such as the IUD.

 

I'd be absolutely furious if that had happened to me and my partner.

My GF has the coil fitted, I believe that is better for her than not using any contraception because she has no periods.

[Janus]

@ElCid

"Because she would be cutting a healthy body for non medical reasons".

 

Hmmm, I'm not sure what to think about that. I mean, there are lots of cutting of the healthy body by surgeons at the behest of the patient. Breast enlargement springs to mind. Face lifts, and some men  even have surgical procedures to make their biceps or pectorals appear larger. Admittably private, but that was the reason I asked  why you felt it was wrong. 

 

When you say a healthy body, I suppose we have to encompass the mind in the context of this subject. 

Edited August 23, 2019 by Janus

[El Cid]

11 minutes ago, Janus said:

@ElCid

"Because she would be cutting a healthy body for non medical reasons".

 

Hmmm, I'm not sure what to think about that. I mean, there are lots of cutting of the healthy body by surgeons at the behest of the patient. Breast enlargement springs to mind. Face lifts, and some men  even have surgical procedures to make their biceps or pectorals appear larger. Admittably private, but that was the reason I asked  why you felt it was wrong.

But they are regarded as such and looked down upon by many. I am bald, or partially bald; not something which is a positive, you could say its because my body is not working properly to provide me with a full head of hair.

Could I go to the docs and get it fixed?

[Janus]

12 minutes ago, El Cid said:

But they are regarded as such and looked down upon by many. I am bald, or partially bald; not something which is a positive, you could say its because my body is not working properly to provide me with a full head of hair.

Could I go to the docs and get it fixed?

I don't understand what you have said/mean there-my bold.

Edited August 23, 2019 by Janus

[El Cid]

44 minutes ago, Janus said:

Breast enlargement springs to mind. Face lifts, and some men  even have surgical procedures to make their biceps or pectorals appear larger. Admittably private, but that was the reason I asked  why you felt it was wrong. 

 

Such operations are seen as cosmetic, for vein people and unnecessary .

[Top Cats Hat]

2 hours ago, El Cid said:

Because she would be cutting a healthy body for non medical reasons.

You have already been told of a number of legitimate medical reasons for this operation.

[Ms Macbeth]

17 hours ago, El Cid said:

But they are regarded as such and looked down upon by many. I am bald, or partially bald; not something which is a positive, you could say its because my body is not working properly to provide me with a full head of hair.

Could I go to the docs and get it fixed?

You might be able to have a hair transplant, but you'd have to pay for it.