Consequences Of Brexit [Part 8] Read First Post Before Posting

[melthebell]

22 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said:

The only thing I would tell Bedforshire Police  is to spend more time investigating real crimes  and arresting real criminals.

 

As stated there is no excuse for fake death threats.  Leave voters have the moral high ground because they were on the winning side of the 2016 EU referendum result.  I stated over a year ago that martial law should be introduced if necessary to implement the democratic 2016 EU referendum result and nothing has made me change my mind since about that prospect.  In a country that has large numbers of MPs who don't respect democracy there shouldn't be any complaints if tanks are brought onto the streets to bring back order.

 

 

So now you know better than all the police forces on the matter of death threats too

[melthebell]

Vote of no confidence next week according to the snp

[Top Cats Hat]

3 hours ago, Lockdoctor said:

.As stated there is no excuse for fake death threats.  Leave voters have the moral high ground because they were on the winning side of the 2016 EU referendum result.  

As you have been told many, many times that neither side won the referendum given that neither side got the support of 40% of the electorate.

 

Love your ‘martial law’ idea. Totally backs up the narrative that many Brexiteers are completely bonkers right wingers. 

[I1L2T3]

10 hours ago, Lex Luthor said:

What a difference a few days make.

 

It wasn't long ago on here that Brexiters were described as old, harmless, immobile, apathetic, dying vegetables, not capable of walking on a demonstration, and not motivated enough.

 

Now it seems they're dangerous hoardes, capable of rampaging, rioting, threatening, murdering! 

 

Make your minds up.

 

They’re not a dangerous horde, but their ranks do include some individuals with potential to commit terrorist acts. We know that as it’s already happened. Looks to me that certain Brexit leaders are calling out to those people, and to ramp up the fear all they need is a single serious attack. Calls to riot won’t be responded to, and that could make the dangerous individuals even more desperate.

 

Its a dangerous game. And it won’t end well.

Edited September 28, 2019 by I1L2T3

[apelike]

1 hour ago, Top Cats Hat said:

As you have been told many, many times that neither side won the referendum given that neither side got the support of 40% of the electorate.

And as you have been told many, many times it is the majority of the electorate that vote on the day that count so basing it on the total electorate is both misleading and wrong. On the day there was a 3.8% majority in favour of leave so its simple statistics that leave won.

 

Unless you have a system of compulsory voting then that is how it will always be judged.

Edited September 28, 2019 by apelike

[Top Cats Hat]

6 minutes ago, apelike said:

And as you have been told many, many times it is the majority of the electorate that vote on the day that count so basing it on the total electorate is both misleading and wrong. On the day there was a 3.8% majority in favour of leave so its simple statistics that leave won.

And that justifies making death threats and threatening to riot on the streets?

 

Whether you like it or not, a minority of UK citizens voted to leave the EU and that minority is now demanding that its wishes are met or it will cause civil unrest.

 

Are we now to add the word ‘bully’ to the list of adjectives to describe Brexiteers?

[apelike]

57 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

And that justifies making death threats and threatening to riot on the streets?

No it doesn't and I never said it did  but warping statistics to make a point is also not justifiable either as it is meaningless.

 

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Whether you like it or not, a minority of UK citizens voted to leave the EU and that minority is now demanding that its wishes are met or it will cause civil unrest.

Its not about what I like but about how you are interpreting those statistics for your own benefit, notice how you have now swapped electorate for citizens!  

 

I recommend this bit of reading:

 

http://www.innerworlddesigns.com/circle/book12/pdf/Robert Thouless - Straight And Crooked Thinking.pdf

Edited September 28, 2019 by apelike

[Litotes]

The best way out of this is to ask the electorate what they actually want to do now they know that the Suicide Act (aka Brexit) will impact them to such an extent that their children's children will ask why it was ever considered a sensible thing to do.

 

[Top Cats Hat]

1 hour ago, apelike said:

notice how you have now swapped electorate for citizens!  

Does that make a difference?

 

Either way it is only a minority of people who wish to leave the EU and many of them don’t actually know why.

[apelike]

1 hour ago, Top Cats Hat said:

Does that make a difference?

Yes around 20 million and you know it does otherwise you would not keep changing and swapping the terms. The Electorate are those that are qualified to vote and in the 2016 referendum it was 46,500,001. Citizens are those that are resident in the country regardless of whether they are eligible to  vote or not and in 2016 that was estimated at 65,600,000. 

 

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Either way it is only a minority of people who wish to leave the EU and many of them don’t actually know why.

It may have gone down slightly but in the last compilation of polls it was almost a similar swing the other way of around 4% of the  Electorate which although in the minority its only a small one. But... its the result of the past referendum that counts and that result was in favour of leave. Unless another referendum takes place we don't know if that swing is real or not. Even if polls state 4% it still may not be good enough as polls typically have a 3% margin of error. As as for the "don't actually know why," that does not matter either. People chose to vote in a secret ballot and are not accountable to anyone as to why they voted the way they did. Nothing on that ballot paper asked them to give reasons only to vote remain or leave.

Edited September 28, 2019 by apelike