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[Top Cats Hat]

7 minutes ago, hobinfoot said:

Your still peddling the same old only 36.45% voted to leave. 

Are you trying to claim that this isn’t true?

[nightrider]

42 minutes ago, hobinfoot said:

Your still peddling the same old only 36.45% voted to leave. The only votes that count are the ones that were cast. If you didn’t have a good reason for not voting then tough. I personally have zero sympathy for.

A substantial fraction of the leave vote was to leave with some kind of amazing deal. The idea there is any mandate for a no deal crash out is for the birds.

[Pettytom]

57 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

Not strange at all.

 

313 is a majority, albeit a slim one, of all MPs in Parliament (50.08%)

 

17.5 million is not a majority of the electorate. (36.45%)

313 isn’t a majority of the 650 MPs. It is 48.1% of them.

 

You seem to have forgotten about Sinn Fein . Andthe critically ill. And those who can’t be bothered to turn up. And the abstainers.

[Top Cats Hat]

5 minutes ago, Pettytom said:

313 isn’t a majority of the 650 MPs. It is 48.1% of them.

 

You seem to have forgotten about Sinn Fein . Andthe critically ill. And those who can’t be bothered to turn up. And the abstainers.

Sinn Fein aren’t in Parliament. To do that their MPs would need to swear allegiance to the crown which clearly they can’t do.

[Pettytom]

4 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

Sinn Fein aren’t in Parliament. To do that their MPs would need to swear allegiance to the crown which clearly they can’t do.

They are elected MPs.

[Robin-H]

2 hours ago, tinfoilhat said:

Which is what he wants to do now isn't it? 

 

Something else I found out, during recess conference season, committees and lords run as normal but not under prorogation.

He doesn’t want to change the law, no. 

[Top Cats Hat]

2 minutes ago, Pettytom said:

They are elected MPs.

Yes, but they cannot vote in the House of Commons without taking their seats and can’t take their seats unless they swear allegiance to the Queen which is why I said ‘majority in Parliament’, not a majority of MPs.

 

Strictly speaking, they aren’t Members of Parliament but simply representatives of their constituencies as technically Parliament is the sovereign, the House of Lords and the House of Commons and elected Sinn Fèin representatives only become part of the Commons after they are sworn in.

 

Maybe Jacob Rees-Mogg can advise us with his great knowledge of constitutional matters.

[tinfoilhat]

32 minutes ago, Robin-H said:

He doesn’t want to change the law, no. 

So what does he want to do then?

[Robin-H]

3 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

So what does he want to do then?

The law, as it stands, is that the UK will leave the EU on the 31st of Oct. Prorogation of Parliament does not change that. 

 

What law do you think he is trying to change? 

Edited August 30, 2019 by Robin-H

[Pettytom]

30 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

Yes, but they cannot vote in the House of Commons without taking their seats and can’t take their seats unless they swear allegiance to the Queen which is why I said ‘majority in Parliament’, not a majority of MPs.

 

Strictly speaking, they aren’t Members of Parliament but simply representatives of their constituencies as technically Parliament is the sovereign, the House of Lords and the House of Commons and elected Sinn Fèin representatives only become part of the Commons after they are sworn in.

 

Maybe Jacob Rees-Mogg can advise us with his great knowledge of constitutional matters.

So, they are pretty much like a chunk of the electorate who didn’t/ couldn’t vote. You know, the ones that you include in your calculations 

 

You can’t have it both ways. As Boris will shortly be finding out.