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[Gormenghast]

5 minutes ago, melthebell said:

it was down to the greek government not keeping to their financial obligations within the EU, they agreed to the austerity...it worked

And our last austerity was down to Labour being profligate with the country's finances.

 

Greece agreed to theirs because it was forced on them by the EU.

 

It worked, just like our Conservative austerity worked for the UK.

[Pettytom]

2 minutes ago, Gormenghast said:

And our last austerity was down to Labour being profligate with the country's finances.

 

Greece agreed to theirs because it was forced on them by the EU.

 

It worked, just like our Conservative austerity worked for the UK.

It is becoming increasingly clear that austerity has not worked for our country.

 

We have a series of essential public services that are collapsing because of the drastic underfunding of the last ten years.

 

That’s the true cost of austerity 

[Gormenghast]

2 minutes ago, Pettytom said:

It is becoming increasingly clear that austerity has not worked for our country.

 

And your evidence for this is?

 

Let's have some facts and figures please, not just gutter press headlines.

[Pettytom]

Just now, Gormenghast said:

And your evidence for this is?

 

Let's have some facts and figures please, not just gutter press headlines.

Which facts and figures would you like?

 

The ones about the 8% cut in education spending?

 

 Or the 20 000 missing coppers.

 

Or the 5% cut in spending on public health?

 

Those things are the reasons why we have so many social problems. They are the reasons why waiting times in hospital are up. They are the reason why A and E provision is pretty much broken,

 

But yeah, austerity works and anyone who says otherwise is just regurgitating gutter press headlines.

[melthebell]

26 minutes ago, Gormenghast said:

And our last austerity was down to Labour being profligate with the country's finances.

 

Greece agreed to theirs because it was forced on them by the EU.

 

It worked, just like our Conservative austerity worked for the UK.

no it wasnt, our austerity was caused by the worldwide financial crash which was WORLDWIDE, more than us had austerity

Edited December 10, 2019 by melthebell

[Gormenghast]

8 minutes ago, Pettytom said:

 

But yeah, austerity works and anyone who says otherwise is just regurgitating gutter press headlines.

So you agree?

[L00b]

1 hour ago, Gormenghast said:

Who was the Greek austerity down to?

The Greeks, ever since they fiddled their national finances' books to get into the €urozone, without seeing fit to get their fiscal house in order.

 

They are still the best example, of a country eventually running out of other people's money.

 

Austerity worked for them. They're on the economical mend, in a really big way.

 

Now, let's have a look at that research of yours.

Edited December 10, 2019 by L00b

[Pettytom]

1 hour ago, Gormenghast said:

So you agree?

You asked for the facts and figures. I gave them to you.

 

You can figure the rest out for yourself.

 

I was expecting a more intelligent reply from you.

[Michael_W]

1 hour ago, Pettytom said:

Which facts and figures would you like?

 

The ones about the 8% cut in education spending?

 

 Or the 20 000 missing coppers.

 

Or the 5% cut in spending on public health?

 

Those things are the reasons why we have so many social problems. They are the reasons why waiting times in hospital are up. They are the reason why A and E provision is pretty much broken,

 

But yeah, austerity works and anyone who says otherwise is just regurgitating gutter press headlines.

Without regurgitating the same old arguments, how much spending do we really need to create this socialist utopia where none of these issues exist ? I don't remember this country or the world ever being so, who and what's really going to change it ?

Pandering to people who say all the right things won't make everything better, be it Jezza & Co, Greta, or the reincarnation of Mother Teresa, there's a whole world of reality out there which is working against it.

Claims of everything being in crisis are not new, nothings going to collapse or get sold off, littering discussions with political propaganda and hyperbole is the new norm for everyone now though, yes there are issues and challenges, nobody can deny that, there always has been and always will be, people struggling and working hard in challenging roles and conditions is not exclusive to any sector of workers, all my direct family work in various parts of the public service sector, including front line, I have discussed many of these issues with them all and truth be known I have had little resistance to many of the reality checks I have put to them over the years.

 

[Longcol]

25 minutes ago, Michael_W said:

Without regurgitating the same old arguments, how much spending do we really need to create this socialist utopia where none of these issues exist ? I don't remember this country or the world ever being so, who and what's really going to change it ?

Pandering to people who say all the right things won't make everything better, be it Jezza & Co, Greta, or the reincarnation of Mother Teresa, there's a whole world of reality out there which is working against it.

Claims of everything being in crisis are not new, nothings going to collapse or get sold off, littering discussions with political propaganda and hyperbole is the new norm for everyone now though, yes there are issues and challenges, nobody can deny that, there always has been and always will be, people struggling and working hard in challenging roles and conditions is not exclusive to any sector of workers, all my direct family work in various parts of the public service sector, including front line, I have discussed many of these issues with them all and truth be known I have had little resistance to many of the reality checks I have put to them over the years.

 

But it's better to have people who are trying to make it better for everybody than people people who'd tell any sort of lie on a daily basis to get elected and are only interested in their own ego (and further enriching the already rich).