Consequences Of Brexit [Part 8] Read First Post Before Posting

[RJRB]

33 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

The fifth richest country on the planet needs to cut benefits so that wealthy Remainers can pay less tax?

 

It's the EU way.

It will be interesting to see how your diatribes develop in the coming months as a right wing government implements your Brexit.

It must be rather conflicting for you.

[Longcol]

40 minutes ago, RJRB said:

It will be interesting to see how your diatribes develop in the coming months as a right wing government implements your Brexit.

It must be rather conflicting for you.

I think we can see who is going to benefit from the Tory victory and it ain't the workers.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/dec/13/super-rich-family-buy-65m-house-to-celebrate-johnsons-victory

[Mister Gee]

Just now, Longcol said:

I think we can see who is going to benefit from the Tory victory and it ain't the workers.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/dec/13/super-rich-family-buy-65m-house-to-celebrate-johnsons-victory

 

[catmiss]

Commentators are predicting a softer Brexit now Boris doesn’t have to cow tow to the ERG or the DUP

[Albert the Cat]

4 hours ago, catmiss said:

Commentators are predicting a softer Brexit now Boris doesn’t have to cow tow to the ERG or the DUP

That is very true. I am expecting the Leavers to claim that Brexit isn’t Brexit. 

[L00b]

6 hours ago, catmiss said:

Commentators are predicting a softer Brexit now Boris doesn’t have to cow tow to the ERG or the DUP

Sir Ivan Rogers isn't. And he hasn't been wrong yet.

 

I expect the fisheries aspect of the FTA to become the core political issue (it's not an economic one for the UK, given the figures involved).

[nightrider]

7 hours ago, Albert the Cat said:

That is very true. I am expecting the Leavers to claim that Brexit isn’t Brexit. 

Seems Boris has promised everything to everyone.

 

A hard brexit to the older voters, whilst promising to fully maintain supply lines to those whose jobs depend on full integration with the EU. In 6 months one or the other group is going to very angry. Though not much they can do, given the mandate they gave him for the next 5 years.

 

[carosio]

5 hours ago, L00b said:

Sir Ivan Rogers isn't. And he hasn't been wrong yet.

 

I expect the fisheries aspect of the FTA to become the core political issue (it's not an economic one for the UK, given the figures involved).

You could be right there, it's not hard to wonder why. In 1970 Grimsby was perhaps the largest fishing port in the world; it started its decline due to the dispute with Iceland,  then more rapidly when Ted Heath gave away the exclusive rights to our fishing grounds (EEZ) to the Common Fisheries Policy.

Edited December 14, 2019 by carosio

[altus]

1 hour ago, carosio said:

You could be right there, it's not hard to wonder why. In 1970 Grimsby was perhaps the largest fishing port in the world; it started its decline due to the dispute with Iceland,  then more rapidly when Ted Heath gave away the exclusive rights to our fishing grounds (EEZ) to the Common Fisheries Policy.

You forgot the part where UK fishermen sold their quota allocations[1] to EU companies rather than support their communities by selling them to their neighbours. That's the reason I have little sympathy for fishing communities moaning about the EU.

 

[1] Under UK law, quota is allocated to a boat, sell the boat and the quota goes with it. The other EU counties didn't implement such a brain dead system.

Edited December 14, 2019 by altus

[carosio]

1 hour ago, altus said:

You forgot the part where UK fishermen sold their quota allocations[1] to EU companies rather than support their communities by selling them to their neighbours. That's the reason I have little sympathy for fishing communities moaning about the EU.

 

[1] Under UK law, quota is allocated to a boat, sell the boat and the quota goes with it. The other EU counties didn't implement such a brain dead system.

Yes, and it appears that Spain (and others) has bought 90% of Welsh quotas, quotas which are decided in Brussels.