Consequences Of Brexit [Part 8] Read First Post Before Posting

[Baron99]

13 minutes ago, ads36 said:

well, yes you have, obviously.

 

For one thing : we're in the EU.

 

and another : the 'local' produce you buy still has to comply with the regulations.

 

(thankfully)

if we're going to accept lower standards on imported food, uk producers will be allowed to adopt the lower standards. (higher standards mean higher costs)

Surely if I'm buying local produce that is compliant with current EU law which British farmers are happy with then why should they adopt a lower standard at a future date?  And the costs are irrelevant as they will be the same costs as at present. 

 

Never heard of the RSPCA or organisations such Compassion in Farming? 

 

What producer is going to tout their products as being of a lower regulated standard than their competitors, whether it be food or any other product?

 

The consumer will decide.  Nothing but scare mongering. 

[tinfoilhat]

2 hours ago, Baron99 said:

Surely if I'm buying local produce that is compliant with current EU law which British farmers are happy with then why should they adopt a lower standard at a future date?  And the costs are irrelevant as they will be the same costs as at present. 

 

Never heard of the RSPCA or organisations such Compassion in Farming? 

 

What producer is going to tout their products as being of a lower regulated standard than their competitors, whether it be food or any other product?

 

The consumer will decide.  Nothing but scare mongering. 

Providing it's clearly labelled. Will it be clearly labelled?

[altus]

2 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

Providing it's clearly labelled. Will it be clearly labelled?

I doubt it. Given the almost laissez-faire attitude to trade of some of the Tories involved with post brexit trade negotiations, e.g. Liam Fox, and for example, the USA's long policy against mandatory labelling of GMO produce in its trade negotiations, it doesn't seem likely.

[retep]

18 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

Providing it's clearly labelled. Will it be clearly labelled?

 

23 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

Providing it's clearly labelled. Will it be clearly labelled?

What do you think?

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/food-labelling-giving-food-information-to-consumers

[Magilla]

1 hour ago, tinfoilhat said:

Providing it's clearly labelled. Will it be clearly labelled?

Depends on the deal, the US is pushing hard for a serious reduction in information on food labelling.

 

Having nutrition, high-fat/sugar info, and origin information on labelling is considered a "barrier to trade" by the US, for fairly obvious reasons...

 

Fortunately, most of the public understand the importance of keeping our labelling and standards:

https://www.ippr.org/news-and-media/press-releases/public-willing-to-sacrifice-us-trade-deal-to-protect-food-safety

 

Bit of a bind for Boris though...

 

Only time will tell.

[tinfoilhat]

2 hours ago, retep said:

 

What do you think?

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/food-labelling-giving-food-information-to-consumers

Well it is now genius, will it be in the future or will that be part of the “red tape” that gets cut? 

1 hour ago, Magilla said:

Depends on the deal, the US is pushing hard for a serious reduction in information on food labelling.

 

Having nutrition, high-fat/sugar info, and origin information on labelling is considered a "barrier to trade" by the US, for fairly obvious reasons...

 

Fortunately, most of the public understand the importance of keeping our labelling and standards:

https://www.ippr.org/news-and-media/press-releases/public-willing-to-sacrifice-us-trade-deal-to-protect-food-safety

 

Bit of a bind for Boris though...

 

Only time will tell.

Not a bind for Boris at all. He’s getting brexit done you know, on a tide of <removed>  with little scrutiny. 

Edited December 23, 2019 by nikki-red

[Car Boot]

Let's face it, all those who backed Remaining in the European  (ever closer political and economic) Union were on the wrong side of history. 

 

The EU is going to transform into something completely unrecognisable over the next few decades, if it can survive. We are well shut of it. Economic and democratic power has to come out of Westminster and into the regions, not come out of Westminster and into the EU.

Edited December 23, 2019 by Car Boot

[melthebell]

24 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

 

 

The EU is going to transform into something completely unrecognisable over the next few decades, 

no ****, the whole world has, and more (since the 60s / 70s) its what happens

[Car Boot]

1 hour ago, melthebell said:

no ****, the whole world has, and more (since the 60s / 70s) its what happens

The People demand decentralisation - not an ever more distant, more remote centralisation of power, wealth and arms into the hands of a tiny clique of EU Commissioner's. 

 

All those who supported Remain are completely out of touch. 

[melthebell]

Just now, Car Boot said:

The People demand decentralisation - not an ever more distant, more remote centralisation of power, wealth and arms into the hands of a tiny clique of EU Commissioner's. 

 

All those who supported Remain are completely out of touch. 

surely central is central NOT distant and remote?