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59 minutes ago, Obelix said:

I think they are eating their livers....

One Hump is addressing the great democratic issue of our age - free TV

 

https://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/topic/469510-free-tv-box/?tab=comments#comment-8282586

 

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"Electile disfunction"

When you ask for a general election after sacking so many of your MP's that you cannot get a 2/3 vote, and cannot force a vote of confidence in yourself, and Corbyn laughs it down in 30 seconds.

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Time and time again, both Johnson and Hunt were told “But the math hasn’t changed, so you will have no more success in the Commons than Theresa May had.”

 

So what does he do? He tries to threaten and bully his own side into voting his way.

 

How did that go, Boris? 😉

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6 hours ago, CaptainSwing said:

 

Rebels or no rebels, he's not going to get a 2/3 majority for an election without agreeing to ask for another extension, which he says he's not prepared to countenance (though of course there's absolutely no reason to believe a word he says).

 

So if he wants this election, his only other option is to table a motion of no confidence in himself, which I think he probably would be shameless enough to do if he thought he could get it through.  Calling for a motion of confidence in himself (as John Major effectively did in 1993, except that Mr Johnson would want it not to be passed) wouldn't work under the terms of the Fixed Term Parliaments Act.

 

Another factor is that the government can only be compelled to ask for another extension.  The other EU members are not compelled to grant one.  You'd expect that it would be granted, if only for the sake of Ireland, but there's always the chance of loose cannons like Hungary not agreeing, and as I've mentioned before "Don't Call Me Manu" seems to be prepared to pull the plug.

Last night's vote and the uncertainty of whether there will be a General Election has probably increased the chances of a no-deal exit 31st October.  

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2 hours ago, Lockdoctor said:

Last night's vote and the uncertainty of whether there will be a General Election has probably increased the chances of a no-deal exit 31st October.  

You keep telling yourself that.....:)

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2 hours ago, Lockdoctor said:

Last night's vote and the uncertainty of whether there will be a General Election has probably increased the chances of a no-deal exit 31st October.  

There will be no General Election without Bozo first going to Brussels to ask for an extension.

 

He is not trusted and Jeremy Corbyn and the two Scottish ladies know that and they will not facilitate any election where Johnson gets to choose the date.

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32 minutes ago, Obelix said:

You keep telling yourself that.....:)

Leaving the EU on 31st October is still the legal default position.  Yesterday's vote in Parliament hasn't helped the Brexit negotiations.

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3 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said:

Leaving the EU on 31st October is still the legal default position.  Yesterday's vote in Parliament hasn't helped the Brexit negotiations.

You mean Johnson's non-existent negotiations 😎

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2 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said:

Yesterday's vote in Parliament hasn't helped the Brexit negotiations.

Which negotiations are these?

 

EU sources and Irish Foreign Affairs minister Simon Coveney, all say that there has been virtually no input from the UK side since Johnson became PM.

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47 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

There will be no General Election without Bozo first going to Brussels to ask for an extension.

 

He is not trusted and Jeremy Corbyn and the two Scottish ladies know that and they will not facilitate any election where Johnson gets to choose the date.

Indeed. Bojo's narcissim and obsession with being PM means that he'll bit that bitter pill and then ask for an extension. He's no option if he wants to stay in power.

 

After that then just to rub it in Corbyn wont permit a 2/3 majority vote and will get a no confidence passed and then another GE. I suspect that by the end of the year we could be looking at a lib-lab pact again....