Consequences Of Brexit [Part 8] Read First Post Before Posting

[Top Cats Hat]

6 minutes ago, hobinfoot said:

Nobody can be forced to get on a plane and go to Brussels and beg for an extension.

He may not need to.

 

A constitutional lawyer on one of the politics programmes the other week said that an Act of Parliament could be seen by the EU as a sufficient ‘democratic instrument’ to grant an extension without Johnson physically having to formally ask for it.

 

Nobody knows, as it’s all uncharted territory.

 

 

10 minutes ago, apelike said:

Quite.

 

The PM could also just go to Brussels and ask for an extension of a year and then get turned down. Did parliament specify the length of any extension?

Unless the Lords amended it, Parliament specified an extension until January 2020

[nightrider]

33 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

No, but what is does do is give us breathing space to look at where we want to go either by another referendum, a General Election where parties will campaign largely on their Brexit positions or the revocation of Article 50 altogether.

 

At the moment, the UK public are being excluded from a process which has been largely defined by the Conservative Party leadership election and a single individual’s promise made simply to win that election..

The EU need to tie an extension to agreement to do something very specific  - e.g. referendum or vote in parliament to pick a withdrawal option vs remain. Else we will be in the same place in 3 months time.

[melthebell]

Lol some leaver knocking knees going on

[Top Cats Hat]

9 minutes ago, nightrider said:

The EU need to tie an extension to agreement to do something very specific  - e.g. referendum or vote in parliament to pick a withdrawal option vs remain. Else we will be in the same place in 3 months time.

The EU knows that with Johnson now having a majority of -20 (-41 if those Tories sacked yesterday vote against him) a General Election is inevitable between now and January.

[Pettytom]

36 minutes ago, apelike said:

Quite.

 

The PM could also just go to Brussels and ask for an extension of a year and then get turned down. Did parliament specify the length of any extension?

The bill specified the wording of the letter he must write. 

 

The Opposition leaders have set a trap and Johnson/ Cummings have walked right into it

[Obelix]

1 hour ago, apelike said:

The UK public, as you put it, have no say in the matter.

So why are you so special then since you are talking about it and having a say?

[apelike]

57 minutes ago, Pettytom said:

The bill specified the wording of the letter he must write. 

 

The Opposition leaders have set a trap and Johnson/ Cummings have walked right into it

Ah, I see. Its not much of a trap though is it as what happens now even after an extension is granted till 31st Jan?

[hobinfoot]

1 hour ago, Top Cats Hat said:

No, but what is does do is give us breathing space to look at where we want to go either by another referendum, a General Election where parties will campaign largely on their Brexit positions orbreat the revocation of Article 50 altogether.

 

At the moment, the UK public are being excluded from a process which has been largely defined by the Conservative Party leadership election and a single individual’s promise made simply to win that election..

Jesus Christ how much breathtaking space do we need?

[Top Cats Hat]

1 minute ago, hobinfoot said:

Jesus Christ how much breathtaking space do we need?

Given that the last three years have been wasted obsessing over something which does not have the support of the population and is doing immense damage to our economy and reputation, it is time to consider more realistic alternatives.

[geared]

6 minutes ago, apelike said:

Ah, I see. Its not much of a trap though is it as what happens now even after an extension is granted till 31st Jan?

Probably a general election