Consequences Of Brexit [Part 8] Read First Post Before Posting

[hobinfoot]

46 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

Not really.

 

NI has different laws, it’s own government, armed police, and women and gay citizens do not have the same rights as the rest of us.

Scotland also has different laws to the rest of the UK it’s also got its own government Wales has got an assembly but we are all citizens of the UK. And for the police in NI being armed they need to be because terrorist still operate there who are against the Good Friday agreement.

[hobinfoot]

30 minutes ago, melthebell said:

Exactly, then there's NATO, the un etc

NATO and the UN are organisations made up of individual nations. They are not a trading group but I wondered how long someone would try and link the two.

[Top Cats Hat]

6 minutes ago, hobinfoot said:

Scotland also has different laws to the rest of the UK it’s also got its own government Wales has got an assembly but we are all citizens of the UK. 

So you agree then, that NI isn’t an integral part of the UK and its citizens do not have the same rights as those in England, Scotland and Wales?

[hobinfoot]

19 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

So you agree then, that NI isn’t an integral part of the UK and its citizens do not have the same rights as those in England, Scotland and Wales?

The UK is made up of 4 countries all are important and integral to each other.

[melthebell]

45 minutes ago, hobinfoot said:

NATO and the UN are organisations made up of individual nations. They are not a trading group but I wondered how long someone would try and link the two.

i never said they were trading, but they have their own rules and regulations that we adhere to, just like the EU, theres a lot in the world that tell us what to do we are never 100% isolated and never will be like it or not.

19 minutes ago, hobinfoot said:

The UK is made up of 4 countries all are important and integral to each other.

soon to be 2 if we dont watch it

[Top Cats Hat]

37 minutes ago, hobinfoot said:

The UK is made up of 4 countries all are important and integral to each other.

That isn’t true either,

 

During WW2 Churchill considered a strategy of allowing Ireland to regain jurisdiction over the North in exchange for the use of the ports of Cork and Dublin for the Royal Navy. In the early 1970s the head of the British Army at the time, suggested that the government consider relinquishing its claim on the North as the conflict was likely to continue for decades (which it did).

 

Northern Ireland has always been disposable to the UK government. 

[hobinfoot]

23 minutes ago, melthebell said:

i never said they were trading, but they have their own rules and regulations that we adhere to, just like the EU, theres a lot in the world that tell us what to do we are never 100% isolated and never will be like it or not.

soon to be 2 if we dont watch it

We are the UK and are made up of 4 countries not 4-1 so you can try again and again to get me to say that it’s ok to let NI be governed by rules made in the EU when the rest of us aren’t  after we leave you Will never achieve this. And the 4 of us will be fine thanks.

Edited September 6, 2019 by hobinfoot

[hobinfoot]

12 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

That isn’t true either,

 

During WW2 Churchill considered a strategy of allowing Ireland to regain jurisdiction over the North in exchange for the use of the ports of Cork and Dublin for the Royal Navy. In the early 1970s the head of the British Army at the time, suggested that the government consider relinquishing its claim on the North as the conflict was likely to continue for decades (which it did).

 

Northern Ireland has always been disposable to the UK government. 

In the time of war lots of things are considered. And if we had relinquished NI do you honestly think the loyalists would have just laid down ? They would have just carried on where the IRA had left off. There is peace now in the main because both sides agreed to it.

[Pettytom]

31 minutes ago, hobinfoot said:

We are the UK and are made up of 4 countries not 4-1 so you can try again and again to get me to say that it’s ok to let NI be governed by rules made in the EU when the rest of us aren’t  after we leave you Will never achieve this. And the 4 of us will be fine thanks.

Two of the four want to remain in the eu.

 

The UK will not exist in ten years time

[Top Cats Hat]

9 minutes ago, hobinfoot said:

And if we had relinquished NI do you honestly think the loyalists would have just laid down ? 

Eventually they would have had to, as you have to have a realistic goal to carry on fighting. The IRA continued to fight because they could see an ultimate and achievable aim. If Ireland was reunited, what would the Loyalists be fighting for?

 

Put it like this, if Loyalist paramilitaries started to slaughter the Catholic/Nationalist/Irish population in a united Ireland, would that make it more likely or less likely that Britain would retake control of the North of Ireland? Fear of a Loyalist backlash has always been a ridiculous argument against Irish reunification.