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[andyofborg]

9 hours ago, apelike said:

 

I For what its worth I am an advocate of the idea that MP's should only serve a maximum of 3 terms anyway for that very reason. 

That wouldn't really work as the MPs wouldn't really get the chance to get enough experience across government to become PM.

[Albert the Cat]

1 hour ago, hauxwell said:

My old MP Angela Smith has joined the Liberal Democrat’s, she believes they are the strongest party to stop Brexit.  She’s probably thinking it’s her best chance of being re-elected as an MP.  It’s like a merry- go-round with some of these MPs

 

Who wants to vote for a traitor.

Why are their still people who do not know what a traitor actually means. 

 

Why is someone fulfilling their parliamentary duty as a duly elected representative of the people considered by you as such. Remember, the current parliamentarians were most recently elected after 2016. It is not as if people didn’t know where this was going.

 

People like you who repeatedly repeat this description are one who are ignorant or just fundamentally do not understand what it means to be part of a representative democracy. Representative is the key word here. 

[Lockdoctor]

2 hours ago, Pettytom said:

Amber Rudd has only been an MP since 2010. In my experience, people doing complex jobs perform better when they have had adequate experience.

 

The problem that the Tories have is that they are losing all of their moderate voices. The swivel eyed loon branch are unaffected, for example Bill Cash has been an MP since 1984. 

Amber Rudd isn't very bright if she doesn't  really understand that Boris doesn't want the 21 now ex Tory MPs  re-elected as Tory MPs at the next General Election to enable them to vote against their own Party's wishes again in the next Parliament.

 

 Replacement candidates have already been found for the rebels who don't respect the democratic wishes of our people.  

[Albert the Cat]

28 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said:

Amber Rudd isn't very bright if she doesn't  really understand that Boris doesn't want the 21 now ex Tory MPs  re-elected as Tory MPs at the next General Election to enable them to vote against their own Party's wishes again in the next Parliament.

 

 Replacement candidates have already been found for the rebels who don't respect the democratic wishes of our people.  

You need to understand the constituency to see what will happen. If you think the likes of Phillip Hammond won’t be re-elected even without the Tory banner then you are sadly mistaken. I was bought up in Runnymede and Weybridge and personal support for him is overwhelming.  

[Lockdoctor]

9 minutes ago, Albert the Cat said:

You need to understand the constituency to see what will happen. If you think the likes of Phillip Hammond won’t be re-elected even without the Tory banner then you are sadly mistaken. I was bought up in Runnymede and Weybridge and personal support for him is overwhelming.  

You're deluded if you think a non Tory candidate will win the Runnymede and Weybridge seat at the General Election.  

[Pettytom]

1 hour ago, Lockdoctor said:

Amber Rudd isn't very bright if she doesn't  really understand that Boris doesn't want the 21 now ex Tory MPs  re-elected as Tory MPs at the next General Election to enable them to vote against their own Party's wishes again in the next Parliament.

 

 Replacement candidates have already been found for the rebels who don't respect the democratic wishes of our people.  

Amber Rudd is pretty bright actually.

 

How do you think that Prime Minister Cummings candidates are going to do? In many cases, they are going to be up against incumbent Independent Conservatives and Lib Dem’s and possibly Brexit Party candidates.

 

This is going to be the messiest, most unpredictable election ever. And don’t forget that it isn’t happening for a few months. Plenty of time for PM Cummings to drop the ball properly. 

[Longcol]

34 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said:

You're deluded if you think a non Tory candidate will win the Runnymede and Weybridge seat at the General Election.  

Your election predictions leave a lot to be desired.

 

https://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/topic/445007-will-you-change-political-allegiance/page/2/?tab=comments#comment-7939868

 

[Lockdoctor]

18 minutes ago, Pettytom said:

Amber Rudd is pretty bright actually.

 

How do you think that Prime Minister Cummings candidates are going to do? In many cases, they are going to be up against incumbent Independent Conservatives and Lib Dem’s and possibly Brexit Party candidates.

 

This is going to be the messiest, most unpredictable election ever. And don’t forget that it isn’t happening for a few months. Plenty of time for PM Cummings to drop the ball properly. 

Boris Johnson is our Prime Minister.

8 minutes ago, Longcol said:

Your election predictions leave a lot to be desired.

 

https://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/topic/445007-will-you-change-political-allegiance/page/2/?tab=comments#comment-7939868

 

The  result of the snap General Election in 2017  was a massive surprise due to a terrible campaign by Theresa May.  Theresa May called the snap election before planning on how to win it.  Theresa May underestimated the Corbyn threat which most certainly won't happen this time. Boris has been planning for the General Election before he was confirmed the new Tory leader and Prime Minister.  Last time no body voting  expected Corbyn to win , but this time voters will fear a Corbyn win and make sure he doesn't win.   

[Top Cats Hat]

Interesting interview with Amber Rudd on Andrew Marr this morning.

 

She claimed that she not only resigned because of the 21 colleagues slung out of the party but also because very little effort is being done to get a deal. She has repeatedly asked Johnson for details of what progress is being made on talks and been met with silence. As a cabinet minister she said that no-deal preparations have been taking up 80-90% of government time and attempts to find a deal less than 10%.

 

Some Brexiteers on here keep saying that these talks are being held in private. In secret, would probably be a more accurate description if even senior cabinet ministers are being excluded.

 

She also said that there seems to be no policy making process at cabinet level which stokes the fires of suspicion that Cummings is running the show with a handful of extremists like Rees-Mogg and Steve Baker.

[Magilla]

20 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said:

The  result of the snap General Election in 2017  was a massive surprise due to a terrible campaign by Theresa May.

That's what happens when you set red lines that are far more extreme than even most leavers were expecting.