General Election 12 December.

[RJRB]

I would have thought that most people would be able to reason who is the most reliable trading bloc in the future,Europe or the U.S.

We trade on equal terms with the EU ,or bow to the US demands in order to get a few scraps off their table.

I hope that Trump’s comments are even more counter productive to Farage and Johnson’s cause than Obama’s “assistance” to Cameron.

Trump,Farage and Johnson.....what an odious triumvirate.

The sooner we can find some statesmanlike and principled leaders the better. 

Edited November 1, 2019 by RJRB

[hauxwell]

No need to call Trump, Remember Obama interfering with British Politics saying the UK would go to the back of the queue in any trade deal with the US if we leave the EU.

Thank heavens he is no longer President.
 

[RJRB]

1 minute ago, hauxwell said:

No need to call Trump, Remember Obama interfering with British Politics saying the UK would go to the back of the queue in any trade deal with the US if we leave the EU.

Thank heavens he is no longer President.
 

Obamas comments were patently obviously designed to support Camerons Remain policy.

Trump has already illustrated that he is more inclined to tear up agreements as he pursues his America  first mantra.

There will be no deals without major concessions on our part as regards standards and access to our most treasured NHS.

[alchresearch]

I reckon it will all come down to coalitions.

 

Tories and Brexit party - either in a coalition, or tactical candidate placing.

 

Which will force Labour and the Lib Dems to have a "remain" coalition, despite Jo Swinson repeatedly saying she wouldn't.

[Mister Gee]

29 minutes ago, hauxwell said:

No need to call Trump, Remember Obama interfering with British Politics saying the UK would go to the back of the queue in any trade deal with the US if we leave the EU.

Thank heavens he is no longer President.
 

So you’ve got no problem with Trump interfering in British politics?

[alchresearch]

1 hour ago, alchresearch said:

I reckon it will all come down to coalitions.

 

Tories and Brexit party - either in a coalition, or tactical candidate placing.

Smart guessing from the poster above 😉

 

Farage calls on Johnson to 'build Leave alliance'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50261647

 

How long before the "remain alliance".....?

[kidley]

the biggest peaceful weapon america has against other countries is sanctions, if we agree a trade deal with america, heaven help the NHS and above all the English people if they ever get there hands on that.

A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE COMES TO MIND 

[Baron99]

24 minutes ago, alchresearch said:

Smart guessing from the poster above 😉

 

Farage calls on Johnson to 'build Leave alliance'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50261647

 

How long before the "remain alliance".....?

Well the Tory / Brexit party alliance isn't going to happen. 

 

If Farage's raison d'etre is to get the UK to leave the EU, then he shouldn't be issuing any threats & spitting his dummy out if he doesn't get an agreement with the Tories. 

 

He should not contest the secure Tory seats but instead concentrate his efforts on standing in the Lab areas where there was a large Leave vote registered, (and over 60% of Lab constituencies registered a Leave vote), and target the Lab MP's who refused to acknowledge their Leave constituents.  

[Pettytom]

10 minutes ago, Baron99 said:

Well the Tory / Brexit party alliance isn't going to happen. 

 

If Farage's raison d'etre is to get the UK to leave the EU, then he shouldn't be issuing any threats & spitting his dummy out if he doesn't get an agreement with the Tories. 

 

He should not contest the secure Tory seats but instead concentrate his efforts on standing in the Lab areas where there was a large Leave vote registered, (and over 60% of Lab constituencies registered a Leave vote), and target the Lab MP's who refused to acknowledge their Leave constituents.  

I wouldn’t believe a word that Farage or Johnson say.

 

Of course there will be no overt coalition, that would be poisonous for both parties. That won’t stop some tactical cooperation.

 

I’d expect both parties to be very selective about how much canvassing they do in particular constituencies. I’d imagine that Labour/Plaid/SNP/LD will do similarly.

Farage still has about a hundred candidates to find. That will make the Brexit Party quite vulnerable. We only need to look to Sheffield Hallam to see the consequences of poorly vetted candidates. There will be no shortage of journalists digging into the background of candidates of all parties.

 

Its going to be fun.

[the_bloke]

Always makes me laugh when people think parts of the NHS aren't already operated by American companies.