Use And Abuse Of Soup Kitchens

[pattricia]

3 hours ago, Halibut said:

'Them'? You mean people who are struggling to make ends meet? You've never heard of someone who's struggling to make ends meet running a car?

 

Where do you live? Mars?

Now don’t get your knickers in a twist again !!

[Mister M]

1 hour ago, Branyy said:

I think this thread had been started to show a lack of policy needed to stop abuse of a (generally welcomed) service.

And this thread also shows the naivety of people that think no such abuse exists.

Nobody said that no abuse exists; it just seems to me that there are those who couldn't give a toss how many people are sleeping rough, how they ended up on the street, if they are ill, in need of medication, or if they are freezing. However they would certainly venture an opinion on apparent abuses of a system, not because they care, but it allows them to kick people who are already down.

Frankly, if the price of feeding the destitute and the needy means someone getting a bowl of soup that they're not entitled to, then that's a price worth paying.

Picking on the most vulnerable in society whilst ignoring excesses of the most powerful is akin to a school bully cowering before those who are tougher than them, but targeting the weakest.

It's just gross. 

Edited November 6, 2019 by Mister M

[kidley]

1 hour ago, Mister M said:

Nobody said that no abuse exists; it just seems to me that there are those who couldn't give a toss how many people are sleeping rough, how they ended up on the street, if they are ill, in need of medication, or if they are freezing. However they would certainly venture an opinion on apparent abuses of a system, not because they care, but it allows them to kick people who are already down.

Frankly, if the price of feeding the destitute and the needy means someone getting a bowl of soup that they're not entitled to, then that's a price worth paying.

Picking on the most vulnerable in society whilst ignoring excesses of the most powerful is akin to a school bully cowering before those who are tougher than them, but targeting the weakest.

It's just gross. 

My Bold

Who is the most vulnerable in society, and why in you opinion?

Also it has been said many many times by many many people the biggest part of the homeless people are there because they want to be homeless. 

[Guest makapaka]

37 minutes ago, kidley said:

My Bold

Who is the most vulnerable in society, and why in you opinion?

Also it has been said many many times by many many people the biggest part of the homeless people are there because they want to be homeless. 

it's been said many times by many people who were wrong - yes.

[ANGELFIRE1]

14 hours ago, Mister M said:

My understanding is that a person / family would need a referral by a GP or the DWP to use a food bank. Are they referring undeserving people?

I have no idea if they refer undeserving people, do you?.

 

Angel1

[Guest makapaka]

22 hours ago, Stranza said:

II donate to three, two religious and one independent (you can add it to online grocery shop easily) they all need referral.

I know if one 'soup kitchen ' that uses up waste food (kid works for supermarket that donates) that is a turn up and eat place.

 

I really couldn't care less who eats it as long as it's used. I'm currently loaded with our of date mince pies if anyone fancies some.

As long as there is somewhere anyone can get a meal if they need it that's all that counts.

How can you begrudge someone basic food? At best a food bank parcel costs £40 I'm sure the resale value is minimal.

 

We should look up, not down. It isn't the poor that are benefiting.

Exactly - the anger and outrage at a perceived injustice in someone getting a bag of food to eat - and nothing directed at the society that put them there.

 

People ought to be ashamed of themselves. 

[Mister M]

2 hours ago, ANGELFIRE1 said:

I have no idea if they refer undeserving people, do you?.

 

Angel1

No but it was you who brought deserving and undeserving poor into the debate.

3 hours ago, kidley said:

My Bold

Who is the most vulnerable in society, and why in you opinion?

Also it has been said many many times by many many people the biggest part of the homeless people are there because they want to be homeless. 

The homeless, freezing and destitute are the most vulnerable in my opinion. This is because they often lack the basic necessities in life that many of us take for granted (a safe home to go to, a regular income to buy food and cook it, friends and relatives to support them). Many already have mental health difficulties and also may have drug and alcohol problems. 

I hope that this explanation satisfies you, even though you have said that people are homeless because they want to be homeless. Which is very lucky because there is such a short supply of supported accommodation where they can feel safe. 

Edited November 6, 2019 by Mister M

[Mister M]

2 hours ago, makapaka said:

Exactly - the anger and outrage at a perceived injustice in someone getting a bag of food to eat - and nothing directed at the society that put them there.

 

People ought to be ashamed of themselves. 

I think a precondition of feeling shame at their own lack of empathy for those on the outer extremes of society is having a social conscience to begin with. If you don't have that then blaming the victims is easy. And helpfully for those who blame those that rely on soup kitchens, they don't have to question why people are there in the first place (except to say that they're exploiting the kindness of others).

This really is a scabby thread, where people can shart their ignorance and lack of empathy to others, as if those are positive qualities. 

Edited November 6, 2019 by Mister M

[Halibut]

6 hours ago, pattricia said:

Now don’t get your knickers in a twist again !!

Lame attempt to avoid the question Pattricia. 

[pattricia]

10 minutes ago, Halibut said:

Lame attempt to avoid the question Pattricia. 

Not at all.! Whatever reply I give,  you never agree with me, so it’s a waste of time !