Flooding

[ECCOnoob]

8 hours ago, alchresearch said:

Yep. From 2007:

 

New Labour ignored flood warnings

http://www.socialistparty.org.uk/issue/497/2669/24-07-2007/new-labour-ignored-flood-warnings

 

And in 2017:

 

£15million EU flood fund spent on paying off Labour fine

https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/16756529.15million-eu-flood-fund-spent-on-paying-off-labour-fine/

 

 

No no no you can't be coming out with facts like that.

 

It's all the evil tories fault init. 

[TomMix]

6 hours ago, Bargepole23 said:

Worksop council leader uses hindsight to apportion blame in floods.

Building on flood plains is just stupid , But if they have to then make sure that he foundations and ground floors are high enough to escape any maximum flood hight ,its common sense I think.

[Janus]

I don't understand how these developers getting the planning consent on the flood plains-must be quite a few brown envelopes passed around.

[Longcol]

1 hour ago, TomMix said:

Building on flood plains is just stupid , But if they have to then make sure that he foundations and ground floors are high enough to escape any maximum flood hight ,its common sense I think.

Nearly all Sheffield's steel industry was built on the flood plain of the Don due to the vast amounts of water needed in the steel making process.

[Anna B]

1 hour ago, Longcol said:

Nearly all Sheffield's steel industry was built on the flood plain of the Don due to the vast amounts of water needed in the steel making process.

Hence all the flooding round Meadowhall in 2007. The Council put a lot of money and effort into dealing with that  I'm talking about the underground reservoir/ run off that runs alongside Woolley wood bottom,) and it seems to have worked to some extent.

Edited November 15, 2019 by Anna B

[Annie Bynnol]

The area around Fishlakes has seen water management activity since Roman times.

The Don has had several routes to the sea caused by human and natural changes.

The Romans created fisheries in the area and probably cut a drain north to the Aire.

The monasteries also created and managed fisheries.

The Parishes were so wealthy they were fought over by Selby, York, Lincoln and Cambridge colleges for income.

The current outflow  northwards to Goole replaced the many eastern  routes to the Trent including Adlingfleet (one of the richest parishes in the country in its day).

Vermuyden might have been a successful hero in many parts of East Anglia- in this area he was regarded as creating a financial and agricultural disaster and a villain with violent backers (qv Idle Stop) 

 

The border of South Yorkshire with West, North and the East Riding Yorkshire still follow the courses of the once great River Went

The historic border with Lincolnshire and course of the Don south of Thorne and north of Crowle then through Fockerby where you can tell the width of the original river as the two approaching roads from the south west follow the original embankments.

[Annie Bynnol]

3 hours ago, Janus said:

I don't understand how these developers getting the planning consent on the flood plains-must be quite a few brown envelopes passed around.

The planning process does take into account the hydrological surveys of the Environmental Agency not the Council. 

The guidelines set by the Government prevent Councils from denying planning because of the 'possibility' of flooding. They can and do raise concerns with the Government. Thats where the brown envelopes would be.

[Janus]

12 hours ago, Annie Bynnol said:

The guidelines set by the Government prevent Councils from denying planning because of the 'possibility' of flooding.

Sounds like the activities of a third world country. 

 

[Longcol]

10 hours ago, Janus said:

Sounds like the activities of a third world country. 

 

Is there anywhere that flooding is not possible?

 

I remember back in the late 60's in Deepcar at about 600 feet above sea level our neighbours being flooded because of run off water from fields after a few days heavy rain. Probably never happened before or since - but certainly "possible".

[Albert the Cat]

On 15/11/2019 at 20:56, Longcol said:

Nearly all Sheffield's steel industry was built on the flood plain of the Don due to the vast amounts of water needed in the steel making process.

Yes, but they have mitigated for that. For example, why do you think the Thrybergh Rolling Mill has its floor raised 20ft in the air?