David Duckenfield Found Not Guilty

[Jim Hardie]

1 hour ago, prince al said:

If that’s not corporate manslaughter then I don’t know what is!

I think it was too late for a charge of corporate manslaughter as the Chief Constable at the time is deceased.

 

 

[hauxwell]

44 minutes ago, katekate said:

This has gone on far to long.  Let those that lost their lives rest in peace and let this man live his.  Those families have suffered and will continue to do so as they didn't  get the outcome that they wanted.  Whether what this man did was right or wrong he did what he thought best at the time, how many times do we all do that then look back later to see that things could have been very different.  I think he has been punished enough and now deserves to move on.  I feel for those that lost their lives and the families that have to live everyday with this but it's time now to move forward the best way that they can.

I thoroughly  agree with everything  you say KateKate.  
 

[Longcol]

1 hour ago, dan2802 said:

I agree. The poor man can now enjoy the rest of his life.

He's been dragged through this twice. Enough is enough.

3 times - there was a private prosecution and trial at Leeds Crown Court in 2000.

[Guest makapaka]

3 hours ago, dan2802 said:

I agree. The poor man can now enjoy the rest of his life.

He's been dragged through this twice. Enough is enough.

Load of rubbish - he decided he would tell the truth 26 years after the event when if he’d done it at the time it might have saved a lot of heartache for all involved.

 

he was one of the main reasons it’s taken so long.

 

from 2015

 

“I am now very much older, very much wiser and very much more understanding of the events of the day and have decided to tell the whole truth,” Duckenfield said.

 

 

2 hours ago, mickey finn said:

I agree, poor bloke was hounded beyond belief.

Because he hadn’t told the truth.

[Longcol]

8 minutes ago, makapaka said:

Load of rubbish - he decided he would tell the truth 26 years after the event when if he’d done it at the time it might have saved a lot of heartache for all involved.

 

he was one of the main reasons it’s taken so long.

 

from 2015

 

“I am now very much older, very much wiser and very much more understanding of the events of the day and have decided to tell the whole truth,” Duckenfield said.

 

 

Because he hadn’t told the truth.

The Taylor Inquiry back in August 1989 established the truth.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/nov/28/hillsborough-families-outraged-david-duckenfield-not-guilty-verdict

 

"The truth, established in Lord Justice Taylor’s original public inquiry report in August 1989, was that Duckenfield himself had ordered a large exit gate to be opened, to alleviate a crush at the Leppings Lane turnstiles. He failed to take any steps to direct almost 2,500 incoming people away from the crowded central “pens” of the terrace, and the 96 people were fatally injured in a crush from the resulting overcrowding in those pens, 3 and 4."

[Sammax]

2 hours ago, Jim Hardie said:

I think it was too late for a charge of corporate manslaughter as the Chief Constable at the time is deceased.

 

 

Do you not consider the force could have been prosecuted as a body irrespective of who the Chief Constable leading the force is/was?

 

Not that I think anything would be achieved by a prosecution.

[Longcol]

11 minutes ago, Sammax said:

Do you not consider the force could have been prosecuted as a body irrespective of who the Chief Constable leading the force is/was?

 

Not that I think anything would be achieved by a prosecution.

Perhaps for Corporate Manslaughter - but it would have probably been very difficult to establish a "controlling mind".

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_manslaughter_in_English_law

[RichinR'mond]

Sadly on that fateful day some 15mins after K.O.  David Duckenfield found himself in an invidious position.

 

Thousands of Liverpool Ticket Holders arriving late were still outside the Leppings Lane end of the Ground - reported to him as being crushed against the Gates/Turnstiles with the potential for fatalities.

 

Whilst film of the Terrace involved appears to be already full just ask yourself what your decision would have been ?  

 

Heartfelt sympathy to all concerned.

 

Hillsborough Tragedy  -  please now R.I.P.

 

R.

[Guest makapaka]

8 hours ago, RichinR'mond said:

Sadly on that fateful day some 15mins after K.O.  David Duckenfield found himself in an invidious position.

 

Thousands of Liverpool Ticket Holders arriving late were still outside the Leppings Lane end of the Ground - reported to him as being crushed against the Gates/Turnstiles with the potential for fatalities.

 

Whilst film of the Terrace involved appears to be already full just ask yourself what your decision would have been ?  

 

Heartfelt sympathy to all concerned.

 

Hillsborough Tragedy  -  please now R.I.P.

 

R.

He could have taken any number of decisions.

 

delaying the kick off for one, closing the central tunnel to divert fans into the empty paddocks another.

 

afterwards he could also not have withheld the truth for 26 years.

 

read the results of the hillsborough inquiry before talking about fans arriving late and the “invidious” position of David Duckenfield. 

[TomMix]

The Architects , planners and committee's who were responsible for the design seem to have got off scot free , the Leppings Lane stand was not fit for purpose and still to this day is not , I remember being in some horrendous crush situations in there long before that day .