General Election 2019 - Results Thread.

[RollingJ]

28 minutes ago, Beauchiefs said:

Surely its the student vote that gives us an un representative MP  for the area.

Exactly.

[sheffbag]

1 hour ago, West 77 said:

The Labour party could do worse than choosing Stephen Kinnock as their next leader.

Maybe so but Anna was on about how Tony Blair was an establishment multi millionaire and holding Kinnock up as a true red when Neil has taken millions from "the establishment" himself

[Anna B]

2 hours ago, sheffbag said:

Kinnock??? - Just tell us Anna how much Kinnock has pocketed from the EU and his six pensions with his wife.  Good old Labour Neil with his multi-million pound gravy train from the establishment. For the pTrueeople and all that. 

 

 

Yes, he started well, he was a worthy Leader and a good orator but also got the anti-Labour treatment. Maybe it made him cynical when he lost.  He went on to join the corrupt gravy train that is the European Union and made a mint out of it. 

Edited December 17, 2019 by Anna B

[dave_the_m]

What has Neil Kinnock having six pensions got to do with anything? People who have more than one job over their lifetime tend to accumulate multiple pensions, but that doesn't mean that they retire with six times as much money as is reasonable. It means each pension is only worth typically a sixth of full retirement value.

 

Now you may wish to argue that EU civil service  salaries and pensions are overly generous, but even if so I doubt that they compare with what people in senior management positions at large corporations get.

[Anna B]

1 hour ago, West 77 said:

The BBC had a film crew in a Maltby charity shop on Friday morning and everyone they interviewed had voted Tory.  Their former MP was Caroline Flint who I think is the best female to lead the Labour Party.  Caroline Flint is the only former Labour MP I have sympathy for who lost their seat.

 

The Labour party could do worse than choosing Stephen Kinnock as their next leader.

Stephen Kinnock has said he isn't standing. (Not that that means he won't...) However he is more an heir to Blair than to Corbyn.

 

10 minutes ago, dave_the_m said:

What has Neil Kinnock having six pensions got to do with anything? People who have more than one job over their lifetime tend to accumulate multiple pensions, but that doesn't mean that they retire with six times as much money as is reasonable. It means each pension is only worth typically a sixth of full retirement value.

 

Now you may wish to argue that EU civil service  salaries and pensions are overly generous, but even if so I doubt that they compare with what people in senior management positions at large corporations get.

Except that senior management are funded from company profits, civil servants are funded by tax payers.

Edited December 17, 2019 by Anna B

[retep]

The Kinnock's , sounds a bit iffy,

 

"Kinnock’s £10 MILLION Pay Off and the EU SECRET BANK ACCOUNTS"

http://christophereverard.co.uk/kinnocks-10-million-pay-off-and-the-eu-secret-bank-accounts/

[Anna B]

16 minutes ago, retep said:

The Kinnock's , sounds a bit iffy,

 

"Kinnock’s £10 MILLION Pay Off and the EU SECRET BANK ACCOUNTS"

http://christophereverard.co.uk/kinnocks-10-million-pay-off-and-the-eu-secret-bank-accounts/

Kinnock Junior is not a patch on his Dad.

[Mossway]

9 minutes ago, Anna B said:

Kinnock Junior is not a patch on his Dad.

We must hope he’ll never make such an idiot of himself like his dad did on that so-called Sheffield Wednesday speech in ‘92 !

Edited December 17, 2019 by Mossway
Adding ‘92

[Anna B]

2 minutes ago, Mossway said:

We must hope he’ll never make such an idiot of himself like his dad did on that so-called Sheffield Wednesday speech !

Don't know it. Do you have a link?

 

[Anna B]

9 minutes ago, West 77 said:

Boris has just won a 80 seat majority by being a bit iffy.  Recent history has proven that iffy people such as Donald Trump and Boris Johnson can win elections.

Duplicitous.

 

If you're prepared to lie through your teeth you can get away with murder these days. Just lie your way into power and when you're elected nobody can do a thing about it. 

 

What have we become. . . .?