Scotland And Independence.

[L00b]

3 minutes ago, RollingJ said:

Good! 😄

Well, keep suppressing all you like, my good man: he who laughs last, laughs loudest 😘😆

[RollingJ]

2 minutes ago, L00b said:

Well, keep suppressing all you like, my good man: he who laughs last, laughs loudest 😘😆

No 'suppressing' - but on this occasion I disagree with you.

Edited November 25, 2022 by RollingJ

[hauxwell]

3 hours ago, RollingJ said:

Don't think that is allowed.

 

And in any case, the SNP don't issue the ballot papers.

I thought the ballot papers were issued by the government.  

[RollingJ]

Just now, hauxwell said:

I thought the ballot papers were issued by the government.  

But the SNP isn't the government - they are a political party. In any case, the format of the ballot papers, and what they must contain, is laid down in the 'Representation Of The Peoples Act', as amended.

[hauxwell]

3 minutes ago, RollingJ said:

But the SNP isn't the government - they are a political party. In any case, the format of the ballot papers, and what they must contain, is laid down in the 'Representation Of The Peoples Act', as amended.

When I said Government I was referring to Parliament.  I had no idea tho who was responsible for the format of the ballot papers. So thanks for that.

 

[L00b]

2 hours ago, RollingJ said:

But the SNP isn't the government - they are a political party. In any case, the format of the ballot papers, and what they must contain, is laid down in the 'Representation Of The Peoples Act', as amended.

Point of order: the  SNP has a majority in Holyrood and thus forms the Scottish government.

 

It’s all in the name: Union.

 

But unlike Brussels, Westminster gets to decide whether there is an Article 50 or not.

 

Currently, not.

[RollingJ]

8 hours ago, L00b said:

Point of order: the  SNP has a majority in Holyrood and thus forms the Scottish government.

 

It’s all in the name: Union.

 

But unlike Brussels, Westminster gets to decide whether there is an Article 50 or not.

 

Currently, not.

They are the Devolved Administration in Scotland - true. Otherwise, they have the powers of a devolved administration, not full powers.

[L00b]

36 minutes ago, RollingJ said:

They are the Devolved Administration in Scotland - true. Otherwise, they have the powers of a devolved administration, not full powers.

Exactly.
 

That Supreme Court judgement just proved -inasmuch as it needed to be proven- that Scotland is not sovereign, and cannot regain its sovereignty even if a majority of Scots wanted it back.

 

The Union is therefore, by that definition, not one of equals, but one of vassals to England.

 

Relative to 6 years ago, the boot is on the other foot. That is what makes this debate particularly interesting 😉