Bus Fares Up Again,Why?

[Andy C]

You can check exactly how  many taxis are registered/licenced in Sheffield here: https://licensing.sheffield.gov.uk/1/WcaHome

 

All the "Hackney Carriages" (black cabs) you can get on ranks or by hailing in the street will be registered on there, a good proportion of private hire taxis will also be licenced by Sheffield City Council and listed on there, there are a good number of UBER cars registered with other authorities though.

 

I believe the numbers of taxis are much higher than they were before licencing reform, when there was a cap on them.

 

No idea how that compares with buses.

[RollingJ]

6 minutes ago, Andy C said:

You can check exactly how  many taxis are registered/licenced in Sheffield here: https://licensing.sheffield.gov.uk/1/WcaHome

 

All the "Hackney Carriages" (black cabs) you can get on ranks or by hailing in the street will be registered on there, a good proportion of private hire taxis will also be licenced by Sheffield City Council and listed on there, there are a good number of UBER cars registered with other authorities though.

 

I believe the numbers of taxis are much higher than they were before licencing reform, when there was a cap on them.

 

No idea how that compares with buses.

Yes, the PHV numbers are much higher, don't know about Hackneys, but I'm sure @*_ash_* could probably enlighten us, if he's still around.

I think,  but can't be bothered to check now, there are roughly 460 PSVs in the FSY/Stagecoach Yorkshire fleets, but this covers Sheffield/Rotherham/Doncaster for FSY, and the same area for Stagecoach, plus,  I think, Chesterfield.

[Andy C]

30 minutes ago, RollingJ said:

Yes, the PHV numbers are much higher, don't know about Hackneys, but I'm sure @*_ash_* could probably enlighten us, if he's still around.

I think,  but can't be bothered to check now, there are roughly 460 PSVs in the FSY/Stagecoach Yorkshire fleets, but this covers Sheffield/Rotherham/Doncaster for FSY, and the same area for Stagecoach, plus,  I think, Chesterfield.

Stagecoach Yorkshire depots are Barnsley, Rotherham - Rawmarsh, Sheffield - Ecclesfield, Sheffield - Holbrook and Chesterfield Stonegravels.

[RollingJ]

Thanks ,  OK, I missed Barnsley, but I only made a quick post.😀

[*_ash_*]

41 minutes ago, RollingJ said:

Yes, the PHV numbers are much higher, don't know about Hackneys, but I'm sure @*_ash_* could probably enlighten us, if he's still around.

I think,  but can't be bothered to check now, there are roughly 460 PSVs in the FSY/Stagecoach Yorkshire fleets, but this covers Sheffield/Rotherham/Doncaster for FSY, and the same area for Stagecoach, plus,  I think, Chesterfield.

There are 867 hackney plates, and over 100 are now available. Mainly due to drivers retiring the cabs (15 years in Sheffield) - and not renewing because the new choice is too expensive.

 

 

[RollingJ]

Just now, *_ash_* said:

There are 867 hackney plates, and over 100 are now available. Mainly due to drivers retiring the cabs (15 years in Sheffield) - and not renewing because the new choice is too expensive.

 

 

Thanks, Ash.

[Resident]

1 minute ago, *_ash_* said:

There are 867 hackney plates, and over 100 are now available. Mainly due to drivers retiring the cabs (15 years in Sheffield)and not renewing because the new choice is too expensive.

 

 

Are you sure that it's not because Calderdale/East Derbyshire/Wolverhampton have cheaper prices and lax rules compared to Sheffield? 

 

There's been a massive increase in out of town plates being used by Sheffield drivers. 

[RollingJ]

1 minute ago, Resident said:

Are you sure that it's not because Calderdale/East Derbyshire/Wolverhampton have cheaper prices and lax rules compared to Sheffield? 

 

There's been a massive increase in out of town plates being used by Sheffield drivers. 

Those are PHV's, not hackneys.

[*_ash_*]

8 minutes ago, Resident said:

Are you sure that it's not because Calderdale/East Derbyshire/Wolverhampton have cheaper prices and lax rules compared to Sheffield? 

 

There's been a massive increase in out of town plates being used by Sheffield drivers. 

A recent freedom of information said that 220 Calderdale licenses are held by people with Sheffield addresses.

 

A lot of hackneys perhaps have moved onto PHV because the price tag for the new LEVC is more than twice that of the current models, so almost certainly a factor.

 

Unless you can get a station permit, I see no point at all buying a LEVC.

 

[Andy C]

I think from the point of view of the post that started the bus versus taxi discussion, it in reality is probably irrelevant whether there are physically more vehicles or not, passenger perception is generally based on how long they've had to wait for a ride be that by bus, tram, train or taxi.

Edited February 24, 2020 by Andy C