Purdys Diy Open Real Ale Pub

[allwednesday]

On 23/01/2020 at 12:22, Foot said:

Dragon's Tap at Stag in Rotherham

Cheers 

[DerbyTup]

I like some of these little micropubs, but they can be unbearably busy, with no room to swing a cat.  Alternatively, if they are quiet, the few people in there feel obliged to start a conversation with you.  I don't always want to talk to strangers when I go out for a beer.  I'm happy just to be by myself and read.  

 

A bigger concern for me though is the growth of keg beers.  Don't get me wrong, there are some very good ones, some very innovative ones.  But if we are not careful they will end up killing off cask ale, like they did back in the 1960's.  Because they are far easier to keep and far more profitable.

 

I went in that Lost Industry place on Sydney Street a few weeks ago.  It's quite a nice place with a huge range of beers on tap, 21 in total.  But every single one of them is keg.  Not a hand-pump in sight.  Payment is by card only - that doesn't bother me tbh - I think the sooner we get rid of cash altogether the better.  But I came out of there thinking that the end is nigh for "real" ale, that is, "cask" ale.

Edited February 5, 2020 by DerbyTup

[Garrold]

On 05/02/2020 at 09:14, DerbyTup said:

I like some of these little micropubs, but they can be unbearably busy, with no room to swing a cat.  Alternatively, if they are quiet, the few people in there feel obliged to start a conversation with you.  I don't always want to talk to strangers when I go out for a beer.  I'm happy just to be by myself and read.  

 

A bigger concern for me though is the growth of keg beers.  Don't get me wrong, there are some very good ones, some very innovative ones.  But if we are not careful they will end up killing off cask ale, like they did back in the 1960's.  Because they are far easier to keep and far more profitable.

 

I went in that Lost Industry place on Sydney Street a few weeks ago.  It's quite a nice place with a huge range of beers on tap, 21 in total.  But every single one of them is keg.  Not a hand-pump in sight.  Payment is by card only - that doesn't bother me tbh - I think the sooner we get rid of cash altogether the better.  But I came out of there thinking that the end is nigh for "real" ale, that is, "cask" ale.

There are four cask beers on in here, and four keg. In my opinion the cask will outsell the keg. 

Edited February 7, 2020 by Garrold
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[Guest makapaka]

37 minutes ago, Garrold said:

There are four cask beers on in here, and four keg. In my opinion the cask will outsell the keg. 

Nowadays unless there is a choice of 20 including their own personal favourite the ale afficianados will denounce it as inadequate.

[DerbyTup]

11 hours ago, Garrold said:

There are four cask beers on in here, and four keg. In my opinion the cask will outsell the keg. 

In where?

 

I scrolled back through all the threads but can't see which bar you are referring to?  I assume it must be the Purdy's place?  If so great!

 

I just hope they use some imagination and try and have a variety of alcoholic strength and different types of beer.  4 beer pumps selling 4 beers at 4% or thereabouts, isn't very exciting.

Edited February 7, 2020 by DerbyTup

[Garrold]

On 07/02/2020 at 23:41, DerbyTup said:

In where?

 

I scrolled back through all the threads but can't see which bar you are referring to?  I assume it must be the Purdy's place?  If so great!

 

I just hope they use some imagination and try and have a variety of alcoholic strength and different types of beer.  4 beer pumps selling 4 beers at 4% or thereabouts, isn't very exciting.

Yes, sorry, I did mean the Purdy’s place. There’s a decent range on, tbh. It’s looking like there’s going to be a porter or a stout on (Buxton Gatekeeper at the minute) and pales at varying ABVs. There’s a lager on tap (Freedom Brewery), and more hops, including an amber ale on keg. They’re changing fairly rapidly, too. 

[DerbyTup]

17 hours ago, Garrold said:

Yes, sorry, I did mean the Purdy’s place. There’s a decent range on, tbh. It’s looking like there’s going to be a porter or a stout on (Buxton Gatekeeper at the minute) and pales at varying ABVs. There’s a lager on tap (Freedom Brewery), and more hops, including an amber ale on keg. They’re changing fairly rapidly, too. 

That sounds worth a visit!  It's good the beers are turning over rapidly too.  It's great to offer variety, but if you've got a dozen hand pumps but only demand for 4 then you end up with a lot of wasted beer I imagine. 

 

Buxton used to be one of my favourite "local" breweries.  Their "Axe Edge" IPA at 6.8% on cask was something of beauty.  However, they've stopped producing it in cask form now and it's only available as a keg - still nice - but nowhere near as good as the cask version imo.  I visited the Buxton Tap House (in Buxton) last weekend.  It's a nice little place that serves decent food and their range of ales - but again - mainly it's keg.  

 

I like "stronger" pale beers.   I'm talking an absolute minimum of 5%, but preferably 6% or more.  I hear from a lot of landlords that they don't have them regularly because they are slow sellers.  I can understand why that may be the case for lunchtime drinkers - or pubs in remote locations not served well by public transport.  But for evening drinking in pubs which are easily accessible by public transport?  I don't see why these type of beers are not popular.  Although I do think the people behind the bar may need a bit of training to encourage customer's to try them and not be scared off by something that isn't around 4%.

 

 

[Bilge]

I imagine if most people are having more than two pints they stick to 'session' ales. So that's why the strong ones don't sell as much. You can't really be having 5 or 6 pints of Axe Edge or Jaipur etc. It's not sustainable, or much fun I don't imagine.

[DerbyTup]

6 hours ago, Bilge said:

I imagine if most people are having more than two pints they stick to 'session' ales. So that's why the strong ones don't sell as much. You can't really be having 5 or 6 pints of Axe Edge or Jaipur etc. It's not sustainable, or much fun I don't imagine.

True.  I rarely drink more than 2 pints anyhow, I'm just not keen on the volume.  I think the last time I went over that I hit the heady heights of 3 pints - and I could hear the beer sloshing around in my belly after that!  Not nice!  I can get the same effect from 2 pints of strong ale as some folks get from 5 or 6 pints of 4% stuff - and it usually works out cheaper!  😉 Now there's a good reason for any Sheffielder to try it!