tinfoilhat Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 7 hours ago, Baron99 said: It must be some kind of record? We've gone a whole 24 hours plus on this thread without anyone posting (moaning). Well I'll start you all off for the day. Some of you aren't going to like the fact that Nissan are happy with the UK's Brexit deal with the EU & that they're here for the long term, with thousands of jobs, both at the Sunderland plant & ancillary industries secured. "Japanese car maker Nissan has told the BBC its Sunderland plant is secure for the long term as a result of the trade deal reached between the UK and the EU. It said it will move additional battery production close to the plant where it has 6,000 direct employees and supports nearly 70,000 jobs in the supply chain." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/business-55757930 Despite Project Fear postings, hundreds of pages back & months ago the when some here predicted that Sunderland would be an example of a post Brexit, unemployment abyss. No doubt we'll be treated on here to baseless conspiracy theories for Nissan carrying on trading? I'm looking forward to "Well they've been promised millions of secret Govt money just to stay" or "Well the Govt are going to scrap all the labour laws, so even if someone loose an arm on the production line, they'll be given a sticking plaster & told to get back to work." There you go, I've started you off. I'm sure many will come up with more imaginative reasons why Nissan are happy to keep manufacturing in Sunderland? Off you go, have a nice day. Looks the workers of Sunderland will be having a rosy post Brexit future, much to the disappointment to many on here? Thrilled they aren't going to close. Sunderland would have drifted into the dark ages, and it hinged on the tariff free deal Boris got. Just think, some people didn't want a deal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L00b Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, Baron99 said: <...> Despite Project Fear postings, hundreds of pages back & months ago the when some here predicted that Sunderland would be an example of a post Brexit, unemployment abyss. No doubt we'll be treated on here to baseless conspiracy theories for Nissan carrying on trading? I'm looking forward to "Well they've been promised millions of secret Govt money just to stay" or "Well the Govt are going to scrap all the labour laws, so even if someone loose an arm on the production line, they'll be given a sticking plaster & told to get back to work." <...> Baseless theories, eh? Happy to oblige. 9 hours ago, Baron99 said: <...> Off you go, have a nice day. Looks the workers of Sunderland will be having a rosy post Brexit future, much to the disappointment to many on here? I very much doubt that anyone who's spent years warning about the consequences of Brexit, here and elsewhere, wanted to see them come about. The whole point of warning against them -and of voting Remain for those who could- was precisely to avoid the ongoing bin fire, that is only just getting started now. To think how many on here wanted no deal or WTO 🙄 Johnson pushed for Canada instead. So Canada is what you have, and the new standard for freight customs clearance. Carry on winning 👍 Edited January 22, 2021 by L00b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litotes Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 I see crisps are now being held up crossing to NI. This'll be one of the benefits of brexit - reducing obesity due to lack of supplies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECCOnoob Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 36 minutes ago, Litotes said: I see crisps are now being held up crossing to NI. This'll be one of the benefits of brexit - reducing obesity due to lack of supplies. They should just nip over the border and get some Tayto ones. They are generally better than most of the Walkers brands anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRB Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 49 minutes ago, West 77 said: Brexit is a long term project and a once in one hundred year pandemic isn't got to help to bring the benefits sooner. However, if the UK hadn't decided to leave the EU then the likelihood is the British covid vaccine program wouldn't have delivered anywhere near as many vaccines to individuals as it has today. The fact the British covid vaccine delivery program is well ahead of the EU27 vaccine program is evidence that we can deliver things better outside the EU. An opportunity for a crisp factory to be built in NI. Britain was free to pursue its own vaccine approval and policy within the EU. I know Hancock tried a similar allusion,but it is a falsehood not a likelihood. Not sure how British produced potato crisp export problems have an effect on our obesity issues either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRB Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, West 77 said: And so were the EU27 bloc who all decided not to pursue their own individual policy. The only exception seems to be Hungary who have just given approval to rollout the Russian vaccine. Do you seriously believe Britain would have gone it alone with a vaccine program if we had voted to remain in the EU? Can’t see why not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 13 minutes ago, West 77 said: And so were the EU27 bloc who all decided not to pursue their own individual policy. The only exception seems to be Hungary who have just given approval to rollout the Russian vaccine. Do you seriously believe Britain would have gone it alone with a vaccine program if we had voted to remain in the EU? We didn't do schengen, the euro, load of other opt outs. Don't honestly know what the current lot would have done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRB Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said: We didn't do schengen, the euro, load of other opt outs. Don't honestly know what the current lot would have done. But it’s about the only time when they have been ahead of the game,so I will let them have some credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteowl Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, RJRB said: But it’s about the only time when they have been ahead of the game,so I will let them have some credit. Indeed - I'm not a big fan of this Government or indeed Brexit but credit for the vaccine where credit is due so fair play to Boris. (Caveat - assuming extending the delay before the second dose doesn't bite us in the ass) However, to suggest this is because of Brexit is disingenuous as we were still under EU rules when we started. As Tinfoilhat pointed out, we've done many things outside of EU interference despite us, apparently, not having sovereignty. Edited January 22, 2021 by whiteowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 21 hours ago, Litotes said: Pity they have recently sold of the Leaf battery plant to the Chinese who have not got the same commitment. https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/sunderland-battery-plant-envision-nissan-18367089 The EU is bringing forward plans to ensure that the batteries themselves are made from components and materials sourced locally too, most of which can't be found in the UK UK SME's can't afford to process returns: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55757931 More investment leaving the UK: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/23/cheshire-cheesemaker-says-business-left-with-250000-brexit-hole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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