ads36 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 16 minutes ago, West 77 said: Good times lay ahead. unless you work in manufacturing, or agriculture, or finance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L00b Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, ads36 said: unless you work in manufacturing, or agriculture, or finance. and unless you are poor, according to the British government ('s latest analysis). It's looking pretty grim in today's news, after the Guardian's leaks over the weekend alleging a deal proved unreliable. After Barnier's message to EU ambassadors this morning, if the UK government re-tables the objectionable clauses in the draft Internal Market Bill tonight, then it would be curtains on chances of a deal this side of 1st January. Which would actually be best for all concerned, I think, as it would allow some weeks (or months, even) of quiet, to take some heat back out of the whole situation. Edited December 7, 2020 by L00b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 All this over fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRB Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 The oven ready deal appears to be a frozen turkey that won’t be defrosted in time for Christmas. Brinkmanship of the highest order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassett one Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 brexit will be sorted and both sides will claim a victory by wed sorted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carosio Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 On 05/12/2020 at 22:52, Litotes said: I come back to you, where is the factual evidence, that this whole thread is based on, on the benefit of brexit? There is none, at least none has been provided - please provide us some One fact that cannot be denied is that we're avoiding the probability of "Ever Closer Union"- which would be the biggest "Consequence of Remaining". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pettytom Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Total shambles. The best we can hope for is a poor deal that leaves us all poorer. Our spineless PM can’t stand up to the UKIP tendency in his party, so we are all being sold down the river. Never mind though, the narrative is shifting to absolve all of the extremist Brexiters from blame. Apparently, this is all the fault of the remaininers. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/dec/07/remainers-britain-soft-brexit?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other Yeah, ok then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pettytom Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, West 77 said: You do know that Leave won the EU referendum? I do. That’s why I’m amused that there is a move to blame remainers for this mess. You do know that it’s a mess, don’t you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRB Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 14 minutes ago, West 77 said: The mess ended last December when the Tory party won a 80 seat majority which enabled the UK to leave the EU on 31st January this year. The on going negotiations aren't a mess because Boris has the option to walk away without an agreement. It's normal for negotiations to go to the wire when the EU is involved. In Boris we trust🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteowl Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 hour ago, carosio said: One fact that cannot be denied is that we're avoiding the probability of "Ever Closer Union"- which would be the biggest "Consequence of Remaining". Erm, yes it can be denied. As has been mentioned before - one of the assurances that Cameron got when he went to the EU was an exemption for the UK from any closer political union, amongst other things. But certain press at the time claimed he had gotten nothing from the EU, and I guess people believed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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