RollingJ Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 23 minutes ago, Litotes said: After all, if they didn't they would be shown to be liars and fools and not very good at their jobs... wouldn't they? And of course, you would be able to do SO much better wouldn't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pettytom Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, RollingJ said: And of course, you would be able to do SO much better wouldn't you? I’d have done better. I’d never have started this ridiculous affair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRB Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 3 hours ago, West 77 said: As every day passers I hoping more for WTO rules with the EU. Presumably because you are reasonably comfortably set up,with an adequate income. So job losses,increased prices,and other disruptions are of little concern compared with Sovereignty,the essence of which has never left us. 10 minutes ago, RollingJ said: And of course, you would be able to do SO much better wouldn't you? I would have hoped that someone could have done better. If Johnson considers that No Deal is an acceptable conclusion then he has been a total failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, RJRB said: Presumably because you are reasonably comfortably set up,with an adequate income. So job losses,increased prices,and other disruptions are of little concern compared with Sovereignty,the essence of which has never left us. I would have hoped that someone could have done better. If Johnson considers that No Deal is an acceptable conclusion then he has been a total failure. I don't get the impression that West77 is that. Just someone who would enjoy watching the chaos that would ensue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 17 minutes ago, RJRB said: Presumably because you are reasonably comfortably set up,with an adequate income. So job losses,increased prices,and other disruptions are of little concern compared with Sovereignty,the essence of which has never left us. I would have hoped that someone could have done better. If Johnson considers that No Deal is an acceptable conclusion then he has been a total failure. 9 minutes ago, Mister M said: I don't get the impression that West77 is that. Just someone who would enjoy watching the chaos that would ensue. Sadly the brextremist obsessed don't care, they only care about one thing, they are blinded by extremity, they have been radicalised from the decades of anti EU and right wing lies, now only one thing matters, no matter the cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litotes Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 I don't want to just cope - I want to prosper and the deal that the elected representatives of this country promised us to achieve this is not arriving. Normally failure to deliver would be a breach of contract - why isn't it in this case? Why is there no recourse for the lies that Boris has spun? Project fear becomes a project reality... and I don't have confidence in the current leadership as their track record is abysmal in so many places (PPE, track and trace, trade deals, GFA/NI, Brexit, the CSR, Levelling up). Currently Brexit has cost us millions of £s, cost us thousands of jobs, it looks like it will cost every household hundreds of pounds onto their food bill, it also looks like our ability to travel to europe will be restricted... for what? Blue passports... nothing else has come out of Brexit so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightrider Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 29 minutes ago, Litotes said: I don't want to just cope - I want to prosper and the deal that the elected representatives of this country promised us to achieve this is not arriving. Normally failure to deliver would be a breach of contract - why isn't it in this case? Why is there no recourse for the lies that Boris has spun? Project fear becomes a project reality... and I don't have confidence in the current leadership as their track record is abysmal in so many places (PPE, track and trace, trade deals, GFA/NI, Brexit, the CSR, Levelling up). Currently Brexit has cost us millions of £s, cost us thousands of jobs, it looks like it will cost every household hundreds of pounds onto their food bill, it also looks like our ability to travel to europe will be restricted... To be fair they have always loudly said ending Freedom of Movement was a major goal of Brexit. So no surprises there about the restrictions being imposed on us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litotes Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 1 minute ago, nightrider said: To be fair they have always loudly said ending Freedom of Movement was a major goal of Brexit. So no surprises there about the restrictions being imposed on us. Brilliant - never thought of it like that. "We delivered Brexit by locking down the UK by not managing the pandemic." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, West 77 said: Wanting your country to be a free sovereign nation again is hardly an extremist ideology. which to start with has been shown to be absolutely ********, we have ALWAYS been sovereign, so many things the EU has tried foisting on us and we told em where to stick it, we had the best deal when we were one of the big boys at the table, vetoing the bits we didnt like and keeping the bits we did. Instead were under the table looking for crumbs, now were shouting very loudly that we want all of the good bits but NONE of the bad bits and heaping all the negatives at the EUs door Edited December 10, 2020 by melthebell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 10 minutes ago, melthebell said: which to start with has been shown to be absolutely ********, we have ALWAYS been sovereign, so many things the EU has tried foisting on us and we told em where to stick it, we had the best deal when we were one of the big boys at the table, vetoing the bits we didnt like and keeping the bits we did. Instead were under the table looking for crumbs, now were shouting very loudly that we want all of the good bits but NONE of the bad bits and heaping all the negatives at the EUs door My thoughts exactly Mel. And even if we did decide to rejoin the EU at some future date, it won't be on the same terms that we have now. Moreover, one of the things that people complained about in relation to the EU, immigration, is driven much more by the market than Europe. Sooner or later, I think people who talk a great deal about being sovereign will realise that being sovereign without much power is little comfort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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