Consequences Of Brexit [Part 9] Read First Post Before Posting

[L00b]

15 hours ago, Magilla said:

How simple do you have to be to swallow this guff?

YouGov poll data, based on the same question asked every week, about how well or badly the government is negotiating/handling Brexit, shows that this propaganda is working:

Very Well/Fairly Well December average: 27%

Very Well/Fairly Well January average: 39%

Very Well/Fairly Well February 3rd poll: 42%
 

Clearly, more and more people believe the government is doing a good job of managing Brexit, with the undecideds continuing to hover about the same 12% as always.

 

So the only thing you should expect, is more of the same propaganda.

 

Seeing as the EU27 is done with negotiating anything (there's just no appetite left now that the deal is signed, and the EU has plenty other stuff to do), and isn't going to engage English rethoric any time soon(-er now, than it ever did before), that propaganda should continue to work fine for Johnson (since the teething problems are anything but, and aren't going to improve anytime soon - in fact they'll get far worse by summer when the full-fat customs checks kick in).

Edited February 10, 2021 by L00b

[nightrider]

36 minutes ago, L00b said:

YouGov poll data, based on the same question asked every week, about how well or badly the government is negotiating/handling Brexit, shows that this propaganda is working:

Very Well/Fairly Well December average: 27%

Very Well/Fairly Well January average: 39%

Very Well/Fairly Well February 3rd poll: 42%
 

Clearly, more and more people believe the government is doing a good job of managing Brexit, with the undecideds continuing to hover about the same 12% as always.

 

So the only thing you should expect, is more of the same propaganda.

 

Seeing as the EU27 is done with negotiating anything (there's just no appetite left now that the deal is signed, and the EU has plenty other stuff to do), and isn't going to engage English rethoric any time soon(-er now, than it ever did before), that propaganda should continue to work fine for Johnson (since the teething problems are anything but, and aren't going to improve anytime soon - in fact they'll get far worse by summer when the full-fat customs checks kick in).

Its plausible 42% of people don't know anyone personally whose livelihood has been affected by brexit, so for them it all looks good.

[RJRB]

1 hour ago, nightrider said:

Its plausible 42% of people don't know anyone personally whose livelihood has been affected by brexit, so for them it all looks good.

Which is probably similar to many of those who voted for Brexit in the first place without any appreciation of the ramifications of their quest for sovereignty.

The initial bumps in the road will go on for a long time yet because we were never prepared for the deadline that was arbitrarily self imposed.

Ironically we will now be the ones looking for extensions to deadlines to try to manage   the red tape required to import and export goods.

 

And on the financial front

https://www.cityam.com/exclusive-brexit-hit-to-london-may-be-9-5bn-a-year/

[L00b]

21 hours ago, RJRB said:

Ironically we will now be the ones looking for extensions to deadlines to try to manage   the red tape required to import and export goods.

EU says no (to Gove looking for extensions/arrangements).

21 hours ago, RJRB said:

And on the financial front

Amsterdam has now overtaken London in terms of European share trading volume (Financial Times).

[sadbrewer]

1 hour ago, L00b said:

EU says no (to Gove looking for extensions/arrangements).

Amsterdam has now overtaken London in terms of European share trading volume (Financial Times).

Not really concerning the City if you read the whole article

 

"But many believe that the lack of an equivalence deal could in fact help the City appeal to more global destinations, including Hong Kong and Singapore.

Barclays boss Jes Staley last week said that a more global outlook would do the City well.

Rosenblatt Securities market structure analyst Anish Puaar told the FT: “It’s symbolic in that London has lost its status as the home of EU share trading, but it has a chance to carve out its own niche on trading.

“Fund managers will be more concerned with availability of liquidity and the costs of placing a trade, rather than whether an order is executed in London or Amsterdam.”

[L00b]

Sure, seemingly nothing is concerning anyone much, as suggested by the poll results that I posted earlier.

 

Least of all City financial types, with specialist skills and networks in high demand the world over.

 

Meanwhile, the consequences of Brexit (indeed!) are playing out just the same, and as foretold.

 

 

 

 

[Magilla]

6 hours ago, L00b said:

Meanwhile, the consequences of Brexit (indeed!) are playing out just the same, and as foretold.

Indeed, Carney said this would happen, it was branded "Project Fear"...

 

...it's now happened, Bailey says the EU is being unfair!

 

You couldn't make it up!

Edited February 11, 2021 by Magilla

[Guest]

I was on the phone with a customs agency in ROI and was being told UK has made things so much harder.

 

Trade was held up, goods not getting through (including into Northern Ireland) because of the countless new documentations now needed.

 

Tariffs and customs clearance which effectively puts prices of goods up.

[Magilla]

Trade friction 'not teething problems':

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-56031505

They are consequences of putting "sovereignty" above the well-being of people!

 

[RJRB]

1 hour ago, Magilla said:

Trade friction 'not teething problems':

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-56031505

They are consequences of putting "sovereignty" above the well-being of people!

 

I am in virtually total agreement with this article.

The Brexit deal became all about working to a deadline to satisfy a populist agenda and most of the issues that are now realities were put on one side by Johnson and his negotiators led by Lord Frost to “Get Brexit Done”

These are not unknown consequences but became secondary issues .

The negotiations were fractious and acrimonious and those involved can now only try to blame the EU for being unreasonable rather than taking responsibility for the mess that they have created.