Axe Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) 51 minutes ago, m williamson said: Apart from reality and telling the truth Brexit voting Westy. https://www.lawinsider.com/dictionary/mainland-europe And the nitpicking continues. My point is due to the geographical location of Norway freedom of movement is not a big problem for Norway like it was for the UK. It was easier for Eastern European criminals to get to the UK when the UK was a member of the EU than for Eastern European criminals to get to Norway. Quote Mainland Europe means Republic of Ireland, From your link. Do you think the Republic of Ireland is part of mainland Europe? Edited September 13, 2023 by Axe added Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altus Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 20 minutes ago, Axe said: And the nitpicking continues. The basic geography lessons continue more like. Quote My point is due to the geographical location of Norway freedom of movement is not a big problem for Norway like it was for the UK. It was easier for Eastern European criminals to get to the UK when the UK was a member of the EU than for Eastern European criminals to get to Norway. How so? You can drive a car from Denmark to Norway (via Sweden). You have to catch a boat/train/plane to travel to the UK from the France (and thus leave a trail that you wouldn't if you could drive). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m williamson Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 31 minutes ago, Axe said: And the nitpicking continues. My point is due to the geographical location of Norway freedom of movement is not a big problem for Norway like it was for the UK. It was easier for Eastern European criminals to get to the UK when the UK was a member of the EU than for Eastern European criminals to get to Norway. From your link. Do you think the Republic of Ireland is part of mainland Europe? That makes no sense whatsoever. As has already been pointed out to you you can drive, walk or cycle from other European countries into Norway, it's far more difficult to get to the UK. Immigration into this country has risen significantly since Brexit, many people from EU states that lived here and were contributing to the country with skills and taxes - such as Loob - have left, but there has been a lot more immigration from outside Europe. https://www.dw.com/en/uk-immigration-nearly-triples-despite-brexit-promises/a-63878757 Do I think Ireland is part of mainland Europe? No I don't, you didn't fully get what was written in the link did you? That is the legal definition for what constitutes Europe for insurance purposes. If you continue to read after the mention of Ireland it then goes on to specify mainland Europe separately, which includes Norway. It mentions Ireland specifically to make it clear that European cover would include the Republic, it then goes on to name the countries on the mainland of Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Several years since Brexit. All sorts of things have changed because of Brexit or nothing at all to do with Brexit. What is the point of looking back with ifs and buts ? The world keeps spinning, there are no world wars, we have a good standard of living. The future is bright. In the words of the song. "Always look on the Bright side of life. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bargepole23 Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 14 minutes ago, harvey19 said: Several years since Brexit. All sorts of things have changed because of Brexit or nothing at all to do with Brexit. What is the point of looking back with ifs and buts ? The world keeps spinning, there are no world wars, we have a good standard of living. The future is bright. In the words of the song. "Always look on the Bright side of life. " To learn from the mistakes of the past, and either correct them, or never repeat them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, Bargepole23 said: To learn from the mistakes of the past, and either correct them, or never repeat them. Fully agree but not to continually bemoan the fact that we left. I think sufficient time has passed to appreciate any faults that were made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geared Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, harvey19 said: Fully agree but not to continually bemoan the fact that we left. I think sufficient time has passed to appreciate any faults that were made. There's also sufficient time passed to start asking where are all these things we were promised? Brexit aside there's a very real issue here of political figures, and people acting in their interests, making sweeping promises to the electorate, and delivering very little. The fishermen are an excellent example of an industry that was promised the world and immediately left out to dry. Edited September 13, 2023 by geared Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 1 minute ago, geared said: There's also sufficient time passed to start asking where are all these things we were promised? Brexit aside there's a very real issue here of political figures, and people acting in their interests, making sweeping promises to the electorate, and delivering very little. The fishermen are an excellent example of an industry that was promised the world and immediately left out to dry. These things should have been addressed but long enough has passed now to realise many issues will never be addressed. That is why we need to realise Brexit is history and work to improve the situations you refer to instead of just complaining about the single issue of Brexit. Basically ensure politicians are held to account for promises they make when there is no valid excuse for them not doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m williamson Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 49 minutes ago, harvey19 said: These things should have been addressed but long enough has passed now to realise many issues will never be addressed. That is why we need to realise Brexit is history and work to improve the situations you refer to instead of just complaining about the single issue of Brexit. Basically ensure politicians are held to account for promises they make when there is no valid excuse for them not doing so. The situation could be improved with one move. Rejoin the Single Market. That would immediately improve our economy by simplifying trade and reducing cost. It would resolve the Northern Irish problem and the pound would increase in value as a result, further decreasing costs. Basically it would be the Brexit that many people thought they were getting when they voted for it, fairly straight forward and not damaging to the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron99 Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 2 hours ago, geared said: There's also sufficient time passed to start asking where are all these things we were promised? Brexit aside there's a very real issue here of political figures, and people acting in their interests, making sweeping promises to the electorate, and delivering very little. The fishermen are an excellent example of an industry that was promised the world and immediately left out to dry. Well that could have been said for political figures & people from both sides of the argument. A number, including failed politicians enjoyed their parties, (all sides), leavering them into the cushy, closeted & tax payers funded world of the EU. The UK was part & parcel of the EU in its various forms for 47 years before we decided we'd had enough. I'm not sure how long on from 1973 it took until people decided that the UK was benefiting from membership & how much UK taxpayers had put in but I bet it wasn't less than 3 years? Shall we say, give it another 44 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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