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[geared]

34 minutes ago, Anna B said:

Whose idea was that?

And what happened to British Leyland?

From what I remember it was created out of a bunch of already failed British manufacturers, who still continued to work against each other.  It was always one bailout after another, compromise on top of compromise.

 

They had a banging breakfast at the plant on Saturday mornings tho

[El Cid]

4 hours ago, Anna B said:

Weren't we once called 'The workshop of the World?'

We once not only made loads of stuff, but we were red hot at inventing things as well.

 

We also traded slaves, time change, move on?

[Anna B]

2 hours ago, El Cid said:

We also traded slaves, time change, move on?

Times are supposed to get better as we learn, improve and evolve. Not much sign of that happening is there?

[El Cid]

9 hours ago, Anna B said:

Times are supposed to get better as we learn, improve and evolve. Not much sign of that happening is there?

We are being led by a Government that is only interested in how much money the country produces(DGP growth). With an increasing population, that will keep increasing!

People are naturally lazy, so the car is King, people need exercise and work, a good healthy diet.

We have a Food Standards agency, that does very little.

We have public transport that receives millions but yet get worse year after year because it cannot make a profit.

The old are wealthier, whilst the young are poorer.

 

Ofcom further estimate that 92% of adults own a smartphone.

Almost all (98%) UK adults aged 16-24 now have a smartphone.

As of 2023, half of all nine-year-olds in the UK own a smartphone.

 

But yet we are told in the media that the problem is hunger because foodbacks are common.

The problem is obesity.

 

https://www.uswitch.com/mobiles/studies/mobile-statistics/

[Anna B]

6 hours ago, El Cid said:

We are being led by a Government that is only interested in how much money the country produces(DGP growth). With an increasing population, that will keep increasing!

People are naturally lazy, so the car is King, people need exercise and work, a good healthy diet.

We have a Food Standards agency, that does very little.

We have public transport that receives millions but yet get worse year after year because it cannot make a profit.

The old are wealthier, whilst the young are poorer.

 

Ofcom further estimate that 92% of adults own a smartphone.

Almost all (98%) UK adults aged 16-24 now have a smartphone.

As of 2023, half of all nine-year-olds in the UK own a smartphone.

 

But yet we are told in the media that the problem is hunger because foodbacks are common.

The problem is obesity.

 

https://www.uswitch.com/mobiles/studies/mobile-statistics/

A mobile phone is now an essential item, particularly for people out of work when jobs are advertised online and applied for online too. Pen and paper is snail mail these days. People will forgo food or reduce it drastically to maintain online connection.

Even people in the poorest parts of Africa are using mobile phones to function more effectively. It used to be 'They can still afford booze and fags' then 'flatscreen televisions' etc etc etc.  - Anything to deny that real poverty exists in this country. I can assure you, it does. Food banks were also denied 10 years ago, now they are an acknowledged fact of life, used by the working poor, never mind the unemployed.

 

When someone is reduced to living on the streets (300,000 people in UK at the last count,) I would think that that is poor enough even for you. 

[El Cid]

1 hour ago, Anna B said:

A mobile phone is now an essential item, particularly for people out of work

 

Its "(98%) UK adults aged 16-24 now have a smartphone", not a £10 phone, being online is important for a household.

Of course poverty exists, minimum wage up 10% yesturday, but its housing that is the problem.

Does a 10% increase in the minimum wage mean a 5% cut in poverty? People out of work is very low, less than 5% I believe.

[Anna B]

16 hours ago, El Cid said:

Its "(98%) UK adults aged 16-24 now have a smartphone", not a £10 phone, being online is important for a household.

Of course poverty exists, minimum wage up 10% yesturday, but its housing that is the problem.

Does a 10% increase in the minimum wage mean a 5% cut in poverty? People out of work is very low, less than 5% I believe.

Unfortunately you don't have to be out of work to be poor these days.

It's now possible to be in full time employment, living frugally, and still not able to make ends meet. People with jobs need food banks to help, and live with the constant worry of being able to pay bills at the end of the month, and ultimately the threat of homelessness. 

 

Minimium wage does not cover outgoings, and the work is often insecure including 0 hours contracts or the 'gigg' economy. Working practices are abysmal with little protection for the workers and once in the cycle it's very difficult to get out of. In these circumstances working is no longer the route to a better life.

 

How we came to accept this as the norm is beyond me. All those hard fights and struggles to gain decent working conditions and pay are long forgotten. It really is back to the workhouse or the street and it shouldn't be.  

[geared]

58 minutes ago, Anna B said:

How we came to accept this as the norm is beyond me. 

 

People kept voting in completely inept politicians because they held a strong view on a single policy.  Labour didn't help much either, their alternative was pretty poor.

[Padders]

1 hour ago, Anna B said:

Unfortunately you don't have to be out of work to be poor these days.

It's now possible to be in full time employment, living frugally, and still not able to make ends meet. People with jobs need food banks to help, and live with the constant worry of being able to pay bills at the end of the month, and ultimately the threat of homelessness. 

 

Minimium wage does not cover outgoings, and the work is often insecure including 0 hours contracts or the 'gigg' economy. Working practices are abysmal with little protection for the workers and once in the cycle it's very difficult to get out of. In these circumstances working is no longer the route to a better life.

 

How we came to accept this as the norm is beyond me. All those hard fights and struggles to gain decent working conditions and pay are long forgotten. It really is back to the workhouse or the street and it shouldn't be.  

Bang on Anna.

Instead of moving forwards, were going backwards to the early 1900's.

[El Cid]

4 hours ago, Anna B said:

Unfortunately you don't have to be out of work to be poor these days.

How we came to accept this as the norm is beyond me. All those hard fights and struggles to gain decent working conditions and pay are long forgotten. It really is back to the workhouse or the street and it shouldn't be.  

Its the expensive housing that does it, but the older generation tend to vote against new housing developments. Liz Truss didnt help by almost colapsing the bond markets and increasing peoples mortgages.