Mr. Johnson Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 15 hours ago, trastrick said: And a very expensive hotel, with no help for a couple of seniors at the door, dragging suitcases up a flight of fancy marble steps. Finally got to the lobby bar for a well earned drink, To be met by, "Sorry, luv, the bar is closed, the server is a bit late today"! Which hotel was it? You are allowed to name it. I want to attempt this parking / drop off impossibility myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Mr. Johnson said: Which hotel was it? You are allowed to name it. I want to attempt this parking / drop off impossibility myself. Mercur, around noon on a Monday. Summer time. It's right beside the New "Peace Garden (that's no longer a garden, nor peaceful. Lol) It used used to be a quiet respite to get away from the noise of the city traffic, but when I was there, it was a noisy fairground with roundabouts, like a piece of spare ground! Good Luck! Edited March 13, 2020 by trastrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planner1 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 11 hours ago, Longcol said: I'm not talking about a tunnel as such - more of a couple of hundred yards of covered underpass similar to some of the A58M through Leeds centre. Potentially less work needed than carving out 4 lanes of road in the fairly steep hillside behind the station. Its still a tunnel, the method of construction might be cut and cover instead of boring. Again it would still be a significant and costly underground structure and an ongoing maintenance liability. Also might not be the easiest thing to construct without causing major disruption to traffic flows. Any buried services, sewers, culverts would need to be dealt with, again, potentially extremely expensive. Moving the road around the back of the station is preferable from a placemaking point of view, which is what this masterplan is about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads36 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, trastrick said: Mercur Good Luck! Park square upto arundel gate turn right straight over it's a nightmare! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest makapaka Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 On 11/03/2020 at 18:13, Robin-H said: The Peace Gardens? The Gold Route? Grey to Green? Fitzalan square. The moor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, ads36 said: Park square upto arundel gate turn right straight over it's a nightmare! Theoretically I agree! Yes, I too can read a map. Took me all of 5 seconds! But, unfortunately I had a car! Lol Edited March 13, 2020 by trastrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads36 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 as for the sheaf-street proposal, i like it. does it increase train capacity as the station? (i understand that's a current problem?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westie1889 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Great idea I think. I travel a lot and have seen on the continent how train station development can kick-start regeneration, the Dutch did this as a response to the financial crisis and it worked really well. businesses and residents like to be close to major transport hubs so if this frees up more land for this it can only be a good thing. Also it will join the train station to the city centre and make a much nicer entrance to the city centre for visitors. i get the historical criticism of SCC but they have to look at maximising the potential benefits of HS2 and this shows they are serious about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECCOnoob Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 3 hours ago, trastrick said: Theoretically I agree! Yes, I too can read a map. Took me all of 5 seconds! But, unfortunately I had a car! Lol So? It's easily done in a car. The hotel itself has no parking but one assumes you checked that when you booked it. There is on street parking next to it and a place to pull in and quickly unload right outside. Really don't see what your problem was. Think you really need a better sat Nav. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbeyedges Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 3 hours ago, trastrick said: Theoretically I agree! Yes, I too can read a map. Took me all of 5 seconds! But, unfortunately I had a car! Lol Sheffield hotels and visitors have all benefited in recent years with the introduction of the brown tourist signs directing visitors to the numerous hotels in the city centre and the suburbs. Once you are on Arundel Gate there is a sign indicating the directions to the Mercure (to be fair it may say St Pauls) and the Cutlers. As far as your comment about the Peace Gardens are concerned on an earlier post. In the 1980's, some 40 years ago we had the Peace Gardens dwarfed by the hideous Egg Box Town Hall extension. In addition to walk through the Peace Gardens in those days meant stepping over empty cider bottles and the like. Now the Peace Gardens are family friendly (which maybe the reason you found them non-peaceful) and a fantastic addition to the city centre which is investing millions to make it better place for us to enjoy. I don't live or work in Sheffield any more but I not only think it's a great place but also has some of the most exciting developments taking place there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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