francypants Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 11 hours ago, mafya said: I run a shop and i have a notice saying = No mask no entry no excuses or exemptions allowed You are free to spend your money elsewhere. my mum who has asthma and mrs who has lung disease wear masks when out shoppin* so why can’t everyone? The amount of people trying it on with made up exemptions is breathtaking and I have been called a **** a couple of times so I just swear back and tell them to shop elsewhere. Good on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewheeldave Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 On 22/08/2020 at 23:29, mafya said: I run a shop and i have a notice saying = No mask no entry no excuses or exemptions allowed You are free to spend your money elsewhere. my mum who has asthma and mrs who has lung disease wear masks when out shoppin* so why can’t everyone? The amount of people trying it on with made up exemptions is breathtaking and I have been called a **** a couple of times so I just swear back and tell them to shop elsewhere. You are breaking the law. If someone is disabled and exempt from wearing a mask and you prevent them from using your store then you are very much in the wrong and will be breaking anti-discrimination laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafya Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 6 hours ago, onewheeldave said: You are breaking the law. If someone is disabled and exempt from wearing a mask and you prevent them from using your store then you are very much in the wrong and will be breaking anti-discrimination laws. No I’m not because I’m requiring anyone entering my shop to wear a mask and if not then to go elsewhere. people can print exemption cards off the internet and Tesco was giving daisy patterned dresses lace thing exemption lanyards to any Tom dick and Harry. My mrs has lung disease and still wears a mask to protect herself and my autistic son also wears one. I don’t want to take the risk and unfortunately My 70 yr old father was taken into hallamshire hospital on Saturday just gone and has got the COVID virus. He is responding well to treatment and this has made me even more determined to make anyone coming into my shop wear a mask. I’m discriminating against non mask wearers and as a shop owner it is my right. Wether or not someone is disabled doesn’t come into it. We haven’t been able to visit my dad in hospital only via video calling and I urge people to take this virus seriously because it is not a nice experience to go through when someone you love has it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Foster Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 yes you are, you can refuse some one service, but if you do that by discriminating against them ie via disability, sexuality ect, you would be breaking the law. Whilst your relatives may have conditions that allow them to wear masks other people have various disability's that don't allow them to, or past traumas, and whilst i have empathy with you for your fathers situation, you should also also have empathy to other peoples situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafya Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 7 hours ago, Cade Foster said: yes you are, you can refuse some one service, but if you do that by discriminating against them ie via disability, sexuality ect, you would be breaking the law. Whilst your relatives may have conditions that allow them to wear masks other people have various disability's that don't allow them to, or past traumas, and whilst i have empathy with you for your fathers situation, you should also also have empathy to other peoples situation. I’m not refusing on the grounds of disability I’m refusing entry on the grounds of anyone not wearing a mask please will not be served as I don’t want to catch the virus myself. night clubs and pubs can refuse entry if you are wearing trainers or wrong attire so it’s similar to that. Police were in my shop yesterday and even commented that it was nice to see that I was following the mask wearing requirement. On a separate note a person with a disability exemption can go round not wearing a mask and then end up spreading it about themselves by going places without a mask. my dad is doing good and they have lowered his oxygen dependency today so that’s a good sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold_Lane Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, mafya said: I’m not refusing on the grounds of disability I’m refusing entry on the grounds of anyone not wearing a mask please will not be served as I don’t want to catch the virus myself. night clubs and pubs can refuse entry if you are wearing trainers or wrong attire so it’s similar to that. Police were in my shop yesterday and even commented that it was nice to see that I was following the mask wearing requirement. On a separate note a person with a disability exemption can go round not wearing a mask and then end up spreading it about themselves by going places without a mask. my dad is doing good and they have lowered his oxygen dependency today so that’s a good sign. Wearing trainers is not a protected characteristic. It’s your shop and I sympathise with your reasoning but I think you could have problems if you stop people who are exempt from entering without a mask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 1 hour ago, mafya said: I’m not refusing on the grounds of disability I’m refusing entry on the grounds of anyone not wearing a mask please will not be served as I don’t want to catch the virus myself. night clubs and pubs can refuse entry if you are wearing trainers or wrong attire so it’s similar to that. Police were in my shop yesterday and even commented that it was nice to see that I was following the mask wearing requirement. On a separate note a person with a disability exemption can go round not wearing a mask and then end up spreading it about themselves by going places without a mask. my dad is doing good and they have lowered his oxygen dependency today so that’s a good sign. Good to hear. I've had the briefest of googles and it looks like airlines are making them compulsory but I haven't flown so I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirsty Relic Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Fully behind you Mafya. What annoys me are the shops that proudly display "NO entry without Masks" signs, then quite happily serve anyone without masks, without challenging them. I think you are totally right and within the law to demand that they do wear one, and enforce that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redruby Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Hmm...I’m not sure what the legal stance is on refusing entry to shop without a mask but I would suggest it is at least equally important to ask customers to sanitise their hands on entry if the aim is to minimise risk as far as possible. There’s less point in insisting customers to put a covering over the nose and mouth if they coughed into their hand before entering the shop and touch door handles, products and handle cash etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jane2008 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 7 hours ago, mafya said: I’m not refusing on the grounds of disability I’m refusing entry on the grounds of anyone not wearing a mask please will not be served as I don’t want to catch the virus myself. night clubs and pubs can refuse entry if you are wearing trainers or wrong attire so it’s similar to that. Police were in my shop yesterday and even commented that it was nice to see that I was following the mask wearing requirement. On a separate note a person with a disability exemption can go round not wearing a mask and then end up spreading it about themselves by going places without a mask. my dad is doing good and they have lowered his oxygen dependency today so that’s a good sign. Good for you Mafya. It's your shop and you are enforcing the rules. Even if you are breaking a discrimitary law somehow, you need to keep you and yours safe. Hope your Dad is OK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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