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5 hours ago, ECCOnoob said:

Could not agree more.

 

I've kept saying. For all people try and believe in the delusion that we have the ability to be this fair, equal, sharing and moralistic society -  it's not going to happen.

 

Some people of course portray that image when they have the means to do so and to get some other form of personal gain from it in return.   

 

But, make no mistake,when times turn hard everybody reverts to their natural human instincts of looking after number one and getting to the top of that food chain.

 

It has to happen. There's no choice.

For the planet to survive we have to forego our obession with constant economic growth and the unedifying consumerism that fuels it. 

There's enough for everyone, there's no need to fight over land and resources. And careful planning, husbandry and cooperation ensures that when hard times come we can all weather the storm.  

 

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17 hours ago, Anna B said:

It has to happen. There's no choice.

For the planet to survive we have to forego our obession with constant economic growth and the unedifying consumerism that fuels it. 

There's enough for everyone, there's no need to fight over land and resources. And careful planning, husbandry and cooperation ensures that when hard times come we can all weather the storm.  

 

The earth will survive. Sadly we won't.    

 

There's dwindling resources, increasing population, animals are becoming extinct (not even rare ones, going on BBC's Springwatch this week)

 

How many Earths do we need?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-33133712

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On 06/11/2020 at 12:35, alchresearch said:

The earth will survive. Sadly we won't.    

 

There's dwindling resources, increasing population, animals are becoming extinct (not even rare ones, going on BBC's Springwatch this week)

 

How many Earths do we need?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-33133712

Blimey, and people say I'm pessimistic...

Problems can be solved. But first we need to be aware of them.

We're only just waking up to some of these, but that doesn't mean nothing can be done about them.

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On 07/11/2020 at 17:28, Anna B said:

Blimey, and people say I'm pessimistic...

Problems can be solved. But first we need to be aware of them.

We're only just waking up to some of these, but that doesn't mean nothing can be done about them.

Just looking at the confidence rates in the UK, zero for businesses and -33 for consumers.

 

Business confidence in France, Germany, USA and Switzerland range from 57.5 to 104

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The UK came bottom for consumer confidence also, with a score of -33, France is top with a score of 90

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On 11/12/2020 at 21:04, El Cid said:

Just looking at the confidence rates in the UK, zero for businesses and -33 for consumers.

 

Business confidence in France, Germany, USA and Switzerland range from 57.5 to 104

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The UK came bottom for consumer confidence also, with a score of -33, France is top with a score of 90

I don't think there's much doubt that post Covid and post Brexit the UK has to reinvent itself and come up with a new USP.

We seem to be mired in old ideas and old ways of doing things, and move at a snails pace to get anything done. The bureaucracy is stifling and expense is always prohibative. Why? 

 

I think the HS2 debacle is the perfect example of this, old technology that won't be finished until the need for it is well past.

What about investing in an underground hyperloop system?  Could be used for a Northern crossrail system too, taking out  the need to navigate over/through the Pennines.

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34 minutes ago, Anna B said:

What about investing in an underground hyperloop system?  Could be used for a Northern crossrail system too, taking out  the need to navigate over/through the Pennines.

The distance needs to be bigger than navigation over the Pennines requires.

 

London to Glasgow maybe.  But not, for example, Sheffield to Manchester.

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I wonder why Britain has recorded its biggest slump amongst any G7 country in its response to Coronavirus?

If the answer is "to save lives, obviously", then Britain hasn't done well on that score either. USA, Brazil, India, Mexico are at the bottom of the league table, with the Britain and Italy just above them.

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On 16/12/2020 at 14:23, Arnold_Lane said:

The distance needs to be bigger than navigation over the Pennines requires.

 

London to Glasgow maybe.  But not, for example, Sheffield to Manchester.

I thought they were considering a hyperloop link between Central London and Heathrow, a distance of about 18 miles. Should take about 4 minutes.

 

And this: Leeds to Manchester in 7 minutes. 

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/leeds-manchester-seven-minutes-why-hyperloop-future-public-transport-1754940

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