kaytie Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 I hope planning permission is refused. Loads of shops...need some pleasant greenery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest makapaka Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 18 hours ago, feargal said: There's quite a lot of empty units up there already though. I assume they'll get better returns making flats. I believe it’s going to be flats above with shops below from an earlier post. New retail space is more likely to get taken on. had it been a significant green space in the area I would be against it but it’s really not despite the best efforts of locals to tidy it up - it’s just a corner plot previously dominated by advertising hoardings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandem Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 This has never been a community garden It has always been private land. The fact that people wanted to plant flowers on it doesn't make it theirs and that was their choice even tho they knew it was private land. I have lived at that end of Crookes for over 40 years and I have never seen anyone use it, apart from it being a dog toilet. If people want green space the Bole Hills are two minutes away. I'm sure playing on there and having picnics if far better than on some land that has buses and cars passing with fumes all day and night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightrider Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mandem said: This has never been a community garden It has always been private land. The fact that people wanted to plant flowers on it doesn't make it theirs and that was their choice even tho they knew it was private land. I have lived at that end of Crookes for over 40 years and I have never seen anyone use it, apart from it being a dog toilet. If people want green space the Bole Hills are two minutes away. I'm sure playing on there and having picnics if far better than on some land that has buses and cars passing with fumes all day and night. and to play Devils Advocate - given its impossible to build outwards onto the extensive green land beyond crookes/crosspool (as far as I know) which would go a long way to helping with the housing shortage, houses have to go somewhere. Same with the loxley development. There is a severe shortage, and people need to be able to live somewhere. Anything proposed is always opposed by local residents everywhere as far as I can tell. Edited June 15, 2020 by nightrider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Joker Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 On 13/06/2020 at 11:18, kaytie said: I hope planning permission is refused. Loads of shops...need some pleasant greenery. Good thing there's a large park just 200 metres away then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest makapaka Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 7 hours ago, Mandem said: This has never been a community garden It has always been private land. The fact that people wanted to plant flowers on it doesn't make it theirs and that was their choice even tho they knew it was private land. I have lived at that end of Crookes for over 40 years and I have never seen anyone use it, apart from it being a dog toilet. If people want green space the Bole Hills are two minutes away. I'm sure playing on there and having picnics if far better than on some land that has buses and cars passing with fumes all day and night. I’ve been in and around crookes area for 20 years and totally agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightrider Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 16 hours ago, makapaka said: I’ve been in and around crookes area for 20 years and totally agree. Thats not quite true. If they have used it for more than a certain amount of time, and the landowner has never given permission nor tried to prevent usage, then from a legal standpoint they have a claim to continued use of the land. IIRC the length is 20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandem Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, nightrider said: Thats not quite true. If they have used it for more than a certain amount of time, and the landowner has never given permission nor tried to prevent usage, then from a legal standpoint they have a claim to continued use of the land. IIRC the length is 20 years. If this is true why did the council allow the land to be sold to a private developer, They should have stepped in and informed the legal team of the prospective buyers of this and bought the land themselves for "community garden" If it was a legal binding amendment then it should have shown up an any searches that were done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest makapaka Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 16 minutes ago, nightrider said: Thats not quite true. If they have used it for more than a certain amount of time, and the landowner has never given permission nor tried to prevent usage, then from a legal standpoint they have a claim to continued use of the land. IIRC the length is 20 years. It wasn’t getting used for anything though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightrider Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 18 minutes ago, makapaka said: It wasn’t getting used for anything though. I thought residents state they have used it as a community garden? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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