Re Writing Of History

[Pettytom]

3 minutes ago, Halibut said:

I think that's a grand idea.

Liverpool have done a similar thing with their inescapable links to the slave trade. It is very impressive 

[L00b]

29 minutes ago, the_bloke said:

Fun fact; the Guardian supported slavery and opposed the Emancipation Act in the USA at the time, and called Lincoln abhorrent when reporting his death.

It is a fun fact.

 

So, aside from the fact that Guardian clearly changed its tune about that a good while back...where are the statues, street names and/or memorials to the Guardian?

 

And does the duration and extent of its championning antiracism/antislavery/etc offset its earlier slavery support sufficiently, to warrant leaving them alone now?

[Branyy]

6 minutes ago, altus said:

All those documentaries on Hitler provide context by detailing the bad things he did. The statue to Colston described him as "virtuous and wise" and didn't describe the bad things he did. That's common to almost all other statues - they are erected to celebrate people not provide a critique of their actions. Without context, statues can't inspire anyone to not do what they did.

I think change of the plaque to more appropriate would have done better job.

[altus]

1 minute ago, Branyy said:

I think change of the plaque to more appropriate would have done better job.

There's rarely enough space on a plaque to provide context. If you put "This is Edward Colston. He was a slave trader" it looks like the statue has been erected to celebrate the fact he was a slave trader.

 

The park for old statues with information boards idea is a better one.

[Branyy]

2 minutes ago, altus said:

There's rarely enough space on a plaque to provide context. If you put "This is Edward Colston. He was a slave trader" it looks like the statue has been erected to celebrate the fact he was a slave trader.

 

The park for old statues with information boards idea is a better one.

I agree.

[RollingJ]

3 minutes ago, altus said:

There's rarely enough space on a plaque to provide context. If you put "This is Edward Colston. He was a slave trader" it looks like the statue has been erected to celebrate the fact he was a slave trader.

 

The park for old statues with information boards idea is a better one.

Or, just leave them as they are - there is an easily accessible source of information for those who wish to know more about a statue (or many other things) these days - it's called the internet.

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[Rockers rule]

19 minutes ago, Pettytom said:

Maybe you should use your respectful upbringing to consider the effect that glorifying slave traders has on many UK citizens.

 

 

I'm sorry Pettytom you must have read my post wrong.

I did exactly say that we should infact teach our children the rights and wrongs of history and certainly didn't say anything about glorifying slave traders.

Rocker.

[altus]

1 minute ago, RollingJ said:

Or, just leave them as they are - there is an easily accessible source of information for those who wish to know more about a statue (or many other things) these days - it's called the internet.

That just makes it look like you're celebrating the bad things they did.

[RollingJ]

Just now, altus said:

That just makes it look like you're celebrating the bad things they did.

Not to me, @altus- I merely mentioned an option if you wished to research a subject further. I've done a lot of travelling since retiring, visited many different places and seen different statues, buildings , w.h.y., many of which have inspired me to research, many which I have merely admired as statues or whatever.