Owls Legal Fight Starts - Decision 12 Point Deduction 31/07/20

[NERVY-OWL]

23 minutes ago, rogets said:

Not sure what owls fans are worried about.  Wycombe, Barnsley and Rotherham, there are a guaranteed 18 points there for starters 

 

And those are the 3 clubs certain to get relegated next season 

I wouldn't go that far but 12 points isn't as bad as I could be. If monk gets the right players in the 12 points won't be a big issue. I read Leeds in 2007 started with a 15 point deduction but finished 5th so not to worry yet

[PapaLazarou]

29 minutes ago, bassett one said:

but you cannot say hes not wealthy or not put in millions,we dont have any outstanding bills,no overdraft ,he just needs a adviser for players,a top manager and we will be okay,he says many want to buy him out and,if thats lot is not good enough what can you say,but its not like any other business ,i think he would like to just buy until we get up to the premier,but he cant and that must frustrate him,but i would do it the wolves way its guaranteed as you only loan players for the most and if it fails change them as they cannot sit on the sidelines and just collect wages,no results no contract end of.

I never said he wasn't wealthy. Clearly he and his family are. 

 

What I said was how can he be a "top businessman" if he plays no visible role in his familys business. 

 

The only business he is visible in is Sheffield Wednesday. And funnily enough, some of the business practices there have been recently called into question. 

[prince al]

15 minutes ago, PapaLazarou said:

I never said he wasn't wealthy. Clearly he and his family are. 

 

What I said was how can he be a "top businessman" if he plays no visible role in his familys business. 

 

The only business he is visible in is Sheffield Wednesday. And funnily enough, some of the business practices there have been recently called into question. 

Do you think the multimillionaire Mr Chansiri is a bad businessman (senior family member of a global empire) because at the moment his venture into the fickle, unpredictable ,  sometimes dubious business of football ownership world isn’t successful?
 

[PapaLazarou]

41 minutes ago, prince al said:

Do you think the multimillionaire Mr Chansiri is a bad businessman (senior family member of a global empire) because at the moment his venture into the fickle, unpredictable ,  sometimes dubious business of football ownership world isn’t successful?
 

Ok. Lets try and make this simple. I have not questioned Chansiris wealth. I have not said that he is a "bad businessman".  What I am merely questioning is his business acumen and expertise, in light of previous statements of his business prowess (on this thread and many others).  So lets try and make this fairly simple:

 

Is he a multimillionaire? Yes, by default (family wealth)

Is he a self-made business multimillionaire? No

Is he a senior member of a family that owns a global empire?  Yes

Does he play an active role in the running of said global empire?   No

What are his business credentials and experience?   Enlighten us prince al, parkside, and bassett one, because its genuinely not known

Is he a bad businessman?  as above

 

And here's another point: Do you not think that any supposed "top businessman" worth his salt, when venturing into a sector in which he has no prior knowledge or experience, would ABSOLUTELY surround himself with the appropriate advisors? Surely, surely, surely, they would. That's what "top businessmen" do, isn't it? Do you think Richard Branson moved from running a record label into setting up an airline without airline experienced advisors? Or did he just use his knowledge of 7" picture discs to wing it? (no pun intended).

 

So to close:  If anyone can show me how Dejphon Chansiri is a businessman to be respected, due to his experience, qualifications, prowess, acumen, documented commercial successes, and peer respect, that would be just great. Thank you.

 

Edited August 7, 2020 by PapaLazarou

[prince al]

9 minutes ago, PapaLazarou said:

Ok. Lets try and make this simple. I have not questioned Chansiris wealth. I have not said that he is a "bad businessman".  What I am merely questioning is his business acumen and expertise, in light of previous statements of his business prowess (on this thread and many others).  So lets try and make this fairly simple:

 

Is he a multimillionaire? Yes, by default (family wealth)

Is he a self-made business multimillionaire? No

Is he a senior member of a family that owns a global empire?  Yes

Does he play an active role in the running of said global empire?   No

What are his business credentials and experience?   Enlighten us prince al, parkside, and bassett one, because its genuinely not known

Is he a bad businessman?  as above

 

So if anyone can show me how Dejphon Chansiri is a businessman to be respected, due to his experience, qualifications, prowess, acumen, documented commercial successes, and peer respect, that would be just great. Thank you.

 

I still don’t understand?

[PapaLazarou]

9 minutes ago, prince al said:

I still don’t understand?

No problem. Clearly haven't got my point across (which is must be my fault)  so I vote we just leave it there and just have a beer instead.

 

Lifes too short. And its Friday.

 

Enjoy the weekend.

Edited August 7, 2020 by PapaLazarou

[abbeyedges]

2 hours ago, PapaLazarou said:

No problem. Clearly haven't got my point across (which is must be my fault)  so I vote we just leave it there and just have a beer instead.

 

Lifes too short. And its Friday.

 

Enjoy the weekend.

Not your fault at all. I understood quite clearly the point you were putting across. 

[melthebell]

Talking of charlton

 

https://talksport.com/football/efl/743108/charlton-future-in-doubt-as-three-individuals-from-east-street-investments-fail-efls-directors-and-owners-test/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=talksportfacebook&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1596811051

[staninoodle]

On 07/08/2020 at 20:13, PapaLazarou said:

Ok. Lets try and make this simple. I have not questioned Chansiris wealth. I have not said that he is a "bad businessman".  What I am merely questioning is his business acumen and expertise, in light of previous statements of his business prowess (on this thread and many others).  So lets try and make this fairly simple:

 

Is he a multimillionaire? Yes, by default (family wealth)

Is he a self-made business multimillionaire? No

Is he a senior member of a family that owns a global empire?  Yes

Does he play an active role in the running of said global empire?   No

What are his business credentials and experience?   Enlighten us prince al, parkside, and bassett one, because its genuinely not known

Is he a bad businessman?  as above

 

And here's another point: Do you not think that any supposed "top businessman" worth his salt, when venturing into a sector in which he has no prior knowledge or experience, would ABSOLUTELY surround himself with the appropriate advisors? Surely, surely, surely, they would. That's what "top businessmen" do, isn't it? Do you think Richard Branson moved from running a record label into setting up an airline without airline experienced advisors? Or did he just use his knowledge of 7" picture discs to wing it? (no pun intended).

 

So to close:  If anyone can show me how Dejphon Chansiri is a businessman to be respected, due to his experience, qualifications, prowess, acumen, documented commercial successes, and peer respect, that would be just great. Thank you.

 

Hes actually a property developer,and has a media arm,hes well known in thia business circles,hes quite a private person,as is the thia custom and hes quite guarded so information about DC is quite hard to come by,Hes very successfull,one of thialands elite,I was in Phuket,Malaysia and he was well respected there,his name was very well known,travelled upto Pattaya and he was likewise very well known in his own right

[Grappler]

7 hours ago, staninoodle said:

Hes actually a property developer,and has a media arm,hes well known in thia business circles,hes quite a private person,as is the thia custom and hes quite guarded so information about DC is quite hard to come by,Hes very successfull,one of thialands elite,I was in Phuket,Malaysia and he was well respected there,his name was very well known,travelled upto Pattaya and he was likewise very well known in his own right

That's very interesting, what is the name of his property development company and his media business?

 

By "thia", I think you mean Thai? and is Phuket, Malaysia a different place to Phuket, Thailand?