NERVY-OWL Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 On 26/08/2020 at 00:12, staninoodle said: Maybe we missed a trick,should have stuck an extra 10/15M on and wiped away some of DCs mistakes from his earlier years Yea probably should of😁. not sure if it would incurred a bigger deduction though if we did though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grappler Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Now that all this is out in the open, wonder how many still think Mester Chancer is a great bloke who is just badly advised? Oh, and all my "cut and paste" from the EFL documentation, which is now deleted, you can go and find it if you are really interested. Not only does it paint SWFC management in a bad light, it shows that even when they are trying to cheat, they still can't get their act together, hence the fact the books are wrong and the time travel back dating had to be attempted! 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassett one Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 we only did the same as derby ect,but his accountants failed to do it in a way that the others did,its already proven hes innocent,it was just a silly mistake and that doesnt make him a bad person,if he was he wouldnt be allowed to run the club,pity football is not like any other business as we would be promoted by now,as he would of spent a lot more,but we will be okay in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NERVY-OWL Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 12 hours ago, Grappler said: Now that all this is out in the open, wonder how many still think Mester Chancer is a great bloke who is just badly advised? Oh, and all my "cut and paste" from the EFL documentation, which is now deleted, you can go and find it if you are really interested. Not only does it paint SWFC management in a bad light, it shows that even when they are trying to cheat, they still can't get their act together, hence the fact the books are wrong and the time travel back dating had to be attempted! 😄 The charges against him were thrown out, he may of been badly advised or just incompetent when it comes to running a football club, who knows. Either way it still looks bad on the owner as the buck stops with him as in most businesses. Hopefully he's learnt from it if it was just him being naive. Something needs to be said about what's happening with the FFP while crowds aren't there, alot of club chairman will need to put money in to help prop up the club if they're reliant on matchday revenue so hopefully they'll say something soon about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassett one Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 we only did the same as derby ect,but his accountants failed to do it in a way that the others did,its already proven hes innocent,it was just a silly mistake and that doesnt make him a bad person ,but i agree you cannot run a football club,like a normal business as you cannot invest money as you want to gain what you want,if you could we would be in the premier by now,but he will learn and hopefully will get experts to help him achieve his goal of promotion for all of us,good guy,pity he has his hands tied on what he can spend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasquez Rich Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Let's put this into proper perspective on the "invest what you want" and being in the prem. Investing whatever you want will not get you into the top division without being in the top 2 or winning the playoffs (of course) and when 6 or 7 clubs "invest what they want", only 3 go up. Then next year another 6 or 7 "invest what they want"... you see where this is going? After a few years, there will be a whole list of clubs with 50, 60, 70 millions debt and owners who just dump them into administration cos nobody will buy the club from them. FFP is aimed at stopping that scenario. In reality, any business that runs at an average of £13M loss each year is a pretty poorly run business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassett one Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 i disagree with any team losing money is bad ,as its not about that so much in football,how do you compete with those with parachute payments? who have 3 chances of promotion with a huge advantage?,worried about teams going into administration thats easy make the owner pay the league a deposit in case they do,say if they wish to spend the same as them that came down they must deposit that amount in a separate bank that is kept by the FA,but all teams can only do that if they havent had the chance of the parachute money,but many companys lose cash and then achieve there full potential and sell out at a profit.but hes a top man,but does need advice on how to run a football club thats tied to FA rules,i thought the wolves way was best sign top players on loan and only sign them if they get you promotion,it worked well and gave them a top team once up as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasquez Rich Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Parachute payments don't always give any advantage, it's about how the club is run. Just ask such as Stoke, Hull, Sunderland, Wigan, there's a long list of clubs that came down and stayed down because they were living way beyond their means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassett one Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 but theres lots that have used the advantage to go back up,but i always think get a decent manager and that sorts it,i also think you can get out with little cash,but that normally means you come back down as you cannot get top players,leeds got good players and now are building on that,wolves got top loan players got up and signed them and added,at the end of the day class players are the best,but mixed with lion heart types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Petre Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 On 28/08/2020 at 11:44, bassett one said: i disagree with any team losing money is bad ,as its not about that so much in football,how do you compete with those with parachute payments? who have 3 chances of promotion with a huge advantage?,worried about teams going into' administration thats easy make the owner pay the league a deposit in case they do,say if they wish to spend the same as them that came down they must deposit that amount in a separate bank that is kept by the FA,but all teams can only do that if they havent had the chance of the parachute money,but many companys lose cash and then achieve there full potential and sell out at a profit.but hes a top man,but does need advice on how to run a football club thats tied to FA rules,i thought the wolves way was best sign top players on loan and only sign them if they get you promotion,it worked well and gave them a top team once up as well. I think the 'Wolves way' with loan players might have been more luck than judgement as it was only proven when they did get promotion. Not to contradict you bassett one, good post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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