Baron99 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 hour ago, nightrider said: Is it only the factory they are replacing? If so I don't understand the nature argument - I walked through there this weekend and the factory does not look to have any wildlife in it and the whole area seems to be covered in litter that people chuck on the ground. The areas around the factory are nice green spaces to walk in, but the factory itself is an eyesore and all that litter would be harmful to wildlife. But maybe there are also planning to build on green spaces in addition to the factory land? Think you've possibly posted into the wrong thread Night rider? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gligs Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 I have driven through this road layout and can only be amazed at the stupidity and lack of real world intelligence of those who proposed and enacted it. It can only be a result of the Sheffield Council ‘Strong Leader’ system, where just 10 out of 84 elected councillors have the power to make nearly all decisions. The other 74 councillors have virtually no power, so cannot represent the people that elected them. What is the point of voting if your councillor has no power? This undemocratic system was forced on Sheffield by the government in the early 2000s. Had the elections taken place in May, we Sheffielders would have had the opportunity to vote against the 'Strong Leader' system and for a committee council system where all elected councillors have a say in the running of the city. So using Covid-19 as an excuse, this ridiculous traffic system has been forced upon us, at what I imagine is great expense. Only Sheffield council could use social distancing as an excuse to push through a road closure scheme. Councillor Bob Johnson, the council's transport spokesman, said: "With public transport limited due to the pandemic it is more important than ever we help people get to where they need to be". Yes it is important! But what Councillor Bob Johnson doesn't mention is that there is not and never was any public transport in the area affected by these road closures. Come on Bob, tell us how it is going to be so marvellous with all the queueing traffic as drivers are left with fewer roads to reach their destinations. I drove through the area last night just to see what the restrictions are and I could not think of a logical reason for what has been done. There is the old saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"....... Sheffield council's mantra, "If it ain't broke, break it, and tell everyone that it's for their own good". If you approach by car etc. from Rutland Road and turn left on to Penistone Road to access the 'Kelham Quarter', it is a journey of at least 1 mile to find your way back to the Neepsend area due to the closure of Ball St bridge. It appears that only the fools at Council Towers believe this to be in everyone's interest. The sooner common sense prevails and this mistake is put right the better it will be for all road users in the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bargepole23 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 20 minutes ago, Gligs said: I have driven through this road layout and can only be amazed at the stupidity and lack of real world intelligence of those who proposed and enacted it. It can only be a result of the Sheffield Council ‘Strong Leader’ system, where just 10 out of 84 elected councillors have the power to make nearly all decisions. The other 74 councillors have virtually no power, so cannot represent the people that elected them. What is the point of voting if your councillor has no power? This undemocratic system was forced on Sheffield by the government in the early 2000s. Had the elections taken place in May, we Sheffielders would have had the opportunity to vote against the 'Strong Leader' system and for a committee council system where all elected councillors have a say in the running of the city. So using Covid-19 as an excuse, this ridiculous traffic system has been forced upon us, at what I imagine is great expense. Only Sheffield council could use social distancing as an excuse to push through a road closure scheme. Councillor Bob Johnson, the council's transport spokesman, said: "With public transport limited due to the pandemic it is more important than ever we help people get to where they need to be". Yes it is important! But what Councillor Bob Johnson doesn't mention is that there is not and never was any public transport in the area affected by these road closures. Come on Bob, tell us how it is going to be so marvellous with all the queueing traffic as drivers are left with fewer roads to reach their destinations. I drove through the area last night just to see what the restrictions are and I could not think of a logical reason for what has been done. There is the old saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"....... Sheffield council's mantra, "If it ain't broke, break it, and tell everyone that it's for their own good". If you approach by car etc. from Rutland Road and turn left on to Penistone Road to access the 'Kelham Quarter', it is a journey of at least 1 mile to find your way back to the Neepsend area due to the closure of Ball St bridge. It appears that only the fools at Council Towers believe this to be in everyone's interest. The sooner common sense prevails and this mistake is put right the better it will be for all road users in the area. Car, car, blah, blah. Try cycling through it for a different perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gligs Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 I cycled through it before and since the closures, not really any different to what it is now from a cycling perspective, bla, bla, bla....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 19 hours ago, Tony said: Oh man, I don't know how to break this to you, make sure you are sat down with a brown paper bag because you're about to hyperventilate when you see this https://www.thestar.co.uk/business/ps15bn-plan-sheffields-biggest-ever-2445918 All that wonderful access for bus & coach users. Oh wait there's no interchange in the plan ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_bloke Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Still working well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRB Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 At least no cyclists 🚵♀️ in the way. Must be the weather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gligs Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 51 minutes ago, Resident said: All that wonderful access for bus & coach users. Oh wait there's no interchange in the plan ..... Utopia, Sheffield style.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewheeldave Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Gligs said: I cycled through it before and since the closures, not really any different to what it is now from a cycling perspective, bla, bla, bla....... It's very different, cyclists can now use the road in safety 56 minutes ago, the_bloke said: Still working well. There is a truck apparently parked on the cycle lane? Which was blocking the fire engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altus Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Resident said: All that wonderful access for bus & coach users. Oh wait there's no interchange in the plan ..... Yes there is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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