Sheff Council - Shalesmoor Road Layout

[RJRB]

3 hours ago, Planner1 said:

How does a politician making their own decision equate to being thrown under a bus?

You don’t understand how political parties work do you? They have a whip system, just like the parliamentary party and anything important will get voted through by the majority party.

 

And you haven’t pointed to a major city where your committee system has been implemented. Where has it been implemented?

Now what were you saying about hi jacking a thread.

[NewBiz]

What I'd like to know, and hopefully Planner1 will be able to help here, is what metrics SCC have been measuring during the trial (ie number of cyclists using the lane, reduction in vehicular transport as a result of greater cycle use, impact on traffic flow, journey times etc) and what criteria would have to be met for it to be declared a success.

 

Specifically what outcomes, agreed before the trial would need to be seen for SCC  to make the cycle lane permanent.

 

[RollingJ]

@NewBizYou're 'avin a larf, aren't you - there was NO forward planning or measurement scheduled, it was a hasty, ill-conceived idea from the off, and even Planner1 won't be able to wriggle away from that - although it isn't really up to him to do so as he wasn't involved in it.

[NewBiz]

14 minutes ago, RollingJ said:

@NewBizYou're 'avin a larf, aren't you - there was NO forward planning or measurement scheduled, it was a hasty, ill-conceived idea from the off, and even Planner1 won't be able to wriggle away from that - although it isn't really up to him to do so as he wasn't involved in it.

Surely any organisation fit to be in charge of public funds has a clear set of criteria by which they measure the merits or otherwise of any proposed schemes? 

[RollingJ]

Just now, NewBiz said:

Surely any organisation fit to be in charge of public funds has a clear set of criteria by which they measure the merits or otherwise of any proposed schemes? 

🤣🤣

[RJRB]

58 minutes ago, NewBiz said:

Surely any organisation fit to be in charge of public funds has a clear set of criteria by which they measure the merits or otherwise of any proposed schemes? 

One would think so wouldn’t one 😁

[Guest busdriver1]

55 minutes ago, RJRB said:

One would think so wouldn’t one 😁

I would be very surprised if there was not one. Sadly I would also expect it to be an internal department who have in there arsenal a very large broom and an appropriate sized carpet.

[darylslinn]

Do the funds for the  the removal of the scheme and putting the road back to it's pre-cycle lane condition come from central government or the council's own budget ?

 

Edited August 24, 2020 by darylslinn

[NewBiz]

10 hours ago, darylslinn said:

Do the funds for the  the removal of the scheme and putting the road back to it's pre-cycle lane condition come from central government or the council's own budget ?

 

Another very good question. Where's Planner1 when you need him?

[BigAl1]

17 hours ago, NewBiz said:

Surely any organisation fit to be in charge of public funds has a clear set of criteria by which they measure the merits or otherwise of any proposed schemes? 

1. one cyclist per day using the new cycle path and no inconvenience to Councillors driving to council meetings?

2. spend the money before the government take it back?

3. provide things to do for council staff?

 

NewBiz surely you know that the criteria for success will be decided afterwards when the data is available for the PR folks to try and pull the wool over our eyes