Sheff Council - Shalesmoor Road Layout

[darylslinn]

56 minutes ago, RJRB said:

There ain’t nothing like a Dame.

Brilliant

Well she won't be in panto this Christmas....

[alchemist]

1 hour ago, MICK BADGER said:

its just been on look north, Dame Sarah Storey named as Sheffield City Region Active Travel Commissioner says its not the new cycle lane that stopped the ambulance getting through the traffic, it was the traffic that stopped the ambulance getting through the traffic.

Perhaps the paramedics should have been on bikes?  After all some of the supporters of this scheme on here think that everyone should be using cycles no matter the circumstances!!!

56 minutes ago, onewheeldave said:

Good, it was the traffic, glad to see people telling it the way it is. If the roads were not jammed with ridiculous numbers of cars emergency vehicles would never have problems.

If the council wasnt reducing the road width for pointless overly wide cycle lanes there would not have been a problem.  The cycle lane next to the blocked carriageway was empty, strange that.

[alchemist]

32 minutes ago, BoroB said:

It's a good job there are vehicles on the roads to deliver all these bikes to the shops and deliver all the raw materials and bike parts to the bike factories.

 

 

 

Vehicles deliver the bikes???  I thought that they were ridden to the customer from the factory!!

[BoroB]

6 minutes ago, alchemist said:

Vehicles deliver the bikes???  I thought that they were ridden to the customer from the factory!!

Don't let on, most cyclists think that ET delivers them all!

 

Edited July 9, 2020 by BoroB
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[BoroB]

1 hour ago, Michael_N said:

Makes for interesting reading...

 

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/local-news/temporary-cycle-lane-slammed-causing-18565319?fbclid=IwAR1rn8nLCbi2W_r3kyJtjAaaEzKf39i-wkCQge6osT4GvyyZUengJlrSyDM

Statement from the council today seems to indicate they realise what a pigs ear of a scheme they have unleashed upon the city:

Councillor Bob Johnson, Cabinet Member for Transport and Sustainability at Sheffield City Council, said:

“The Council is committed to enhancing walking and cycling as a means of reducing congestion, improving air quality, increasing physical activity and creating attractive places. Covid-19 presented an opportunity to trial pedestrianisation and dedicated cycle lanes in a number of areas around the city and, whilst early days, a number of these such a Pinstone Street are already proving popular and successful.

“The Covid-19 pandemic and Government funding for temporary transport measures enabled us to trial a temporary scheme on Shalesmoor, which went live this week. We understand the ring road is critically important for vehicles, in to and around the city and dedicated cycle lanes in this area is something that has long been called for by active travel groups.

“We have listened to feedback, and we are carefully reviewing the impact of the scheme, making a number of changes in response to concerns from some residents and businesses. It is important that we continue to work with relevant groups and those affected by the changes so that we can make informed decisions about future active travel measures. We will continue to monitor the impact of these temporary measures and if, once the full impact is known, they are not considered to be delivering the scale of benefits that justify the disruption to the ring road, then a decision will be taken on the appropriate time to withdraw this temporary scheme.”

[Guest makapaka]

Just now, BoroB said:

Statement from the council today seems to indicate they realise what a pigs ear of a scheme they have unleashed upon the city:

Councillor Bob Johnson, Cabinet Member for Transport and Sustainability at Sheffield City Council, said:

“The Council is committed to enhancing walking and cycling as a means of reducing congestion, improving air quality, increasing physical activity and creating attractive places. Covid-19 presented an opportunity to trial pedestrianisation and dedicated cycle lanes in a number of areas around the city and, whilst early days, a number of these such a Pinstone Street are already proving popular and successful.

“The Covid-19 pandemic and Government funding for temporary transport measures enabled us to trial a temporary scheme on Shalesmoor, which went live this week. We understand the ring road is critically important for vehicles, in to and around the city and dedicated cycle lanes in this area is something that has long been called for by active travel groups.

“We have listened to feedback, and we are carefully reviewing the impact of the scheme, making a number of changes in response to concerns from some residents and businesses. It is important that we continue to work with relevant groups and those affected by the changes so that we can make informed decisions about future active travel measures. We will continue to monitor the impact of these temporary measures and if, once the full impact is known, they are not considered to be delivering the scale of benefits that justify the disruption to the ring road, then a decision will be taken on the appropriate time to withdraw this temporary scheme.”

Thank goodness.

 

just like the other daft plans they had for Broomhill that went away fortunately.

[Weredoomed]

15 minutes ago, makapaka said:

Thank goodness.

 

just like the other daft plans they had for Broomhill that went away fortunately.

But one has to wonder how this stupidity actually made onto the road. What oversight was there to check that this was viable. The scheme designer is required by law (the CDM regulations) to do a risk assessment of the design, so where is it and what does it say? Or have SCC decided that statutory instruments don't apply to them?

 

And god help them if there's an accident because the HSE will be all over them like a rash. That would tend to concentrate their minds I rather fancy.

Edited July 9, 2020 by Weredoomed
Because why not?

[Guest makapaka]

44 minutes ago, Weredoomed said:

But one has to wonder how this stupidity actually made onto the road. What oversight was there to check that this was viable. The scheme designer is required by law (the CDM regulations) to do a risk assessment of the design, so where is it and what does it say? Or have SCC decided that statutory instruments don't apply to them?

 

And god help them if there's an accident because the HSE will be all over them like a rash. That would tend to concentrate their minds I rather fancy.

I was queuing in it this morning and a blue light on police car came through and got through but was a massive pain with people struggling to find space to let them through.

[Weredoomed]

Just now, makapaka said:

I was queuing in it this morning and a blue light on police car came through and got through but was a massive pain with people struggling to find space to let them through.

Exactly the sort of thing the risk assessment should consider. £5 says it doesn't, on the grounds the RA doesn't exist?

Surely SCC couldn't be so cavalier with safety legislation. Could they?

[Brooker11]

There are thousands of roads in Sheffield where a cycle lane would be welcome, a ring road with many alternative cycling routes isn't one of them, this was a ludicrous and indefensible decision.

 

I've said it before and I'll say it again, until there are some major, major changes to how public transport is run and attitudes to working from home are more encouraging motor vehicles are still key.