apelike Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 1 hour ago, PRESLEY said: Why would you say you always wear a mask when shopping ect if, cotradicting yourself springs to mind, I didn't, I said I wear one when shopping basically to to make others feel comfortable and not because it helps me at all. 8 minutes ago, melthebell said: the talk of them contributing to the problem was back in march / april, the general consensus in July is its better to wear one when in confined spaces the general consensus by whom as it not done on a scientific basis. Is shopping in a supermarket a confined space? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOHN HABS Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 The government Guide lines for compulsory wearing of face coverings in shops from the 24th July:- An important issue has been overlooked here........ if you need to ask an assistant a question that requires an answer and you are either deaf or hard of hearing and dependent upon lip reading, how are you suppose to understand what is being said if they are wearing a face covering. Regretfully my hearing has gone completely, I don't sign and cannot get any benefit from the use of hearing aids, I am fully dependent on my ability to lip read, from the beginning to the present day of Corvid, it has been a nightmare for me in trying to understand what people are saying - I'm sure there are others out there in my situation experiencing the same problem. What are deaf / hard of hearing people suppose to do........ not go to the shops at all because of the fear of not being able to tell what people are saying to them ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm06 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 I've been considering this as I usually have my beard done at the barbers - as a result I have no trimming equipment at home and decided to see how it would look since we were locked down. Upon putting a mask on now it almost gets lost in the facial hair and it got me wondering on the impact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, apelike said: I didn't, I said I wear one when shopping basically to to make others feel comfortable and not because it helps me at all. the general consensus by whom as it not done on a scientific basis. Is shopping in a supermarket a confined space? keep twisting and turning https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/417906/still-confused-about-masks-heres-science-behind-how-face-masks-prevent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feargal Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) Replying to JOHN HABS I saw a man in Boots in town with presumably the same problem, he had a small pad of paper and he wrote his questions down, and the Pharmacy staff replied likewise. Many staff also wear the clear visors for ease of lipreading. Edited July 15, 2020 by feargal threads merged, so it looked like I was talking to myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, whiteowl said: Just been to the supermarket, first time wearing a mask, no issues - seriously, what are people complaining about? It's 15 minutes or so of your life, handle it 🙄 I can handle it though it's just that it's like the track and trace apps unless it becomes compulsory for all then it is really just down to a feel good factor only and no one here has been able to provide any evidence to the contrary either only that is a consensus. The old saying "a chain is only as strong as its weakest link" applies and unless it is also mandatory for shop assistants in supermarkets to wear on then the exercise is a bit pointless. Get on a bus, some won't be wearing them, go to a supermarket and the shop assistants won't be wearing one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butlers Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Been to local supermarket and they are all masked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, melthebell said: keep twisting and turning https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/417906/still-confused-about-masks-heres-science-behind-how-face-masks-prevent So a damp washcloth or surgical mask works .... And to be effective it needs a high take up of at least 80% which is comparable to the track and trace apps... One report that is still not very convincing especially as some countries that have wearing one as mandatory are now suffering from new lockdowns as the cases of the virus increases. 4 minutes ago, butlers said: Been to local supermarket and they are all masked. Some have changed their policy but again it is not compulsory for staff to wear them on if they want to. https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/uk-news/aldi-asda-tesco-sainsburys-morrisons-18593319 Edited July 14, 2020 by apelike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRESLEY Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Really can't see what people are bleating on about, so you have to wear a face covering, boogaloo! Its not for ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 21 minutes ago, JOHN HABS said: The government Guide lines for compulsory wearing of face coverings in shops from the 24th July:- An important issue has been overlooked here........ if you need to ask an assistant a question that requires an answer and you are either deaf or hard of hearing and dependent upon lip reading, how are you suppose to understand what is being said if they are wearing a face covering. Regretfully my hearing has gone completely, I don't sign and cannot get any benefit from the use of hearing aids, I am fully dependent on my ability to lip read, from the beginning to the present day of Corvid, it has been a nightmare for me in trying to understand what people are saying - I'm sure there are others out there in my situation experiencing the same problem. What are deaf / hard of hearing people suppose to do........ not go to the shops at all because of the fear of not being able to tell what people are saying to them ? I think you will find that there are exceptions for people such as yourself and others in a similar situation just as there are on public transport now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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