melthebell Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 1 minute ago, PRESLEY said: Really can't see what people are bleating on about, so you have to wear a face covering, boogaloo! Its not for ever. prolly think the government are grooming us for the future islamofication of the UK and being forced to wear face coverings LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, PRESLEY said: Really can't see what people are bleating on about, so you have to wear a face covering, boogaloo! Its not for ever. Are you sure about that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewheeldave Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, casualbystander said: pure and simple. I like that. 42 minutes ago, apelike said: I didn't, I said I wear one when shopping basically to to make others feel comfortable and not because it helps me at all. Be aware then that you wearing a mask makes some of us uncomfortable- reminds us that there are moves afoot to bully and force us to do something we don't want to do. 41 minutes ago, JOHN HABS said: The government Guide lines for compulsory wearing of face coverings in shops from the 24th July:- An important issue has been overlooked here........ if you need to ask an assistant a question that requires an answer and you are either deaf or hard of hearing and dependent upon lip reading, how are you suppose to understand what is being said if they are wearing a face covering. Regretfully my hearing has gone completely, I don't sign and cannot get any benefit from the use of hearing aids, I am fully dependent on my ability to lip read, from the beginning to the present day of Corvid, it has been a nightmare for me in trying to understand what people are saying - I'm sure there are others out there in my situation experiencing the same problem. What are deaf / hard of hearing people suppose to do........ not go to the shops at all because of the fear of not being able to tell what people are saying to them ? The measures have affected many minority groups from the start- many autistic people cannot queue for example, and so couldn't get into shops. As part of my role as Autism Acceptance Officer for a local social enterprise I did do a small survey asking supermarket managers what instructions they had been given for autistic people who couldn't queue- the answer was 'none'. The lockdown has disproportionately impinged upon autistic people, deaf people and disabled people in general, from the start. Be aware that disabled people are exempt from wearing masks on public transport- hopefully the same will be true for the upcoming shop/supermarket mask requirements. Though it is worth noting that many disabled people are avoiding using public transport because of the hostility they receive from some masked members of the public who can't seem to deal with people not wearing masks even when they are fully entitled to not do so. Edited July 14, 2020 by onewheeldave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, onewheeldave said: I like that. Be aware then that you wearing a mask makes some of us uncomfortable- reminds us that there are moves afoot to bully and force us to do something we don't want to do. The measures have affected many minority groups from the start- many autistic people cannot queue for example, and so couldn't get into shops. As part of my role as Autism Acceptance Officer for a local social enterprise I did do a small survey asking supermarket managers what instructions they had been given for autistic people who couldn't queue- the answer was 'none'. The lockdown has disproportionately impinged upon autistic people, deaf people and disabled people in general, from the start. Be aware that disabled people are exempt from wearing masks on public transport- hopefully the same will be true for the upcoming shop/supermarket mask requirements. Though it is worth noting that many disabled people are avoiding using public transport because of the hostility they receive from some masked members of the public who can't seem to deal with people not wearing masks even when they are fully entitled to not do so. I know, it's like people don't understand autistic, disabled and dead are completely immune to covid19 and everything else that's been put to try and stop the spread of an incurable disease doesn't apply to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRESLEY Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Wonder how the moaning minnies would have gone on in world war 1 or2, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longcol Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, PRESLEY said: Wonder how the moaning minnies would have gone on in world war 1 or2, "Blackout? - not for me guv, against my civil liberties innit". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becky B Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 2 hours ago, tinfoilhat said: I think there's a chance it would make a mask much less effective. I recall reading something years ago that in the 1970s the SAS weren't allowed to have beards as it would make the gas masks ineffective and they went with Mexican 'tasches so they were called Los Banditos. I might have some of it (all of it?) wrong but it sounds right! NHS staff who need to use the FFP3 masks have to be clean shaven, or they don't fit effectively. Given that the face coverings are just a shield and virus particles can get around the edges anyway, I don't suppose it'll make that much difference... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRESLEY Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 3 hours ago, tinfoilhat said: I think there's a chance it would make a mask much less effective. I recall reading something years ago that in the 1970s the SAS weren't allowed to have beards as it would make the gas masks ineffective and they went with Mexican 'tasches so they were called Los Banditos. I might have some of it (all of it?) wrong but it sounds right! Sure your not getting confused with Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewheeldave Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 1 hour ago, tinfoilhat said: I know, it's like people don't understand autistic, disabled and dead are completely immune to covid19 and everything else that's been put to try and stop the spread of an incurable disease doesn't apply to them. They're not immune, as you well know. Neither did I claim they were, as you well know. In addition to the risks of the virus, they've also been hit disproportionatley hard by the lockdown, some are dead because of it. 47 minutes ago, PRESLEY said: Wonder how the moaning minnies would have gone on in world war 1 or2, I very much doubt that the population of England at that time would have complied with house arrest of the healthy population and being forced to wear cloth rags on their face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longcol Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, onewheeldave said: I very much doubt that the population of England at that time would have complied with house arrest of the healthy population and being forced to wear cloth rags on their face. They managed the blackout quite well,, carried ID cards, many city dwellers kids were evacuated, food was rationed, gas masks kept at hand etc........................................ Did I mention conscription into the armed services? Edited July 14, 2020 by Longcol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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