Coronavirus - Part Two.

[Arnold_Lane]

1 hour ago, petemcewan said:

The bloke,

 

With respect. It explains itself. The medical records are available-giving the required data that is necessary

for conducting the trial.Epidemiologist and researchers are well aware of "Historical Control" procedures.

Adopting the procedure gets them out of unethical problems, that obtain  in placebo conducted trials.

 

"A control group that is chosen from a group of patients who were observed at some time in the past or for whom data are available through records. Historical controls are used for comparison with subjects being treated or assessed concurrently"

Segen's Medical Dictionary. © 2012 Farlex, Inc. All rights reserved.

 

 

Historical Control Groups are not new, off the wall,quack way of proceeding.

historical control

" Epidemiology A control group that is chosen from a group of patients who were observed at some time in the past or for whom data are available through records; HCs are used for comparison with subjects being treated concurrently. See Control."

So why aren’t they doing it that way? What’s your theory as to why they favour the placebo?  Do you know something that the experts in the field don’t?  
 

Sorry if that sounds antagonistic.  It’s a genuine question.

Edited July 24, 2020 by Arnold_Lane

[Pettytom]

1 hour ago, ECCOnoob said:

Did you ask the staff or management whilst you were there? 

 

Were they working behind screens or had face shields or other protection?

Shop staff don’t have to wear face coverings.

 

Which is a bit odd, to say the least.

[nikki-red]

1 hour ago, onewheeldave said:

It is not compulsory for shop workers to wear face coverings.

My son is at Uni but also works at Morrisons. Anyone behind a counter or a screen doesn’t have to wear one but staff on the shop floor do.

 

[apelike]

28 minutes ago, nikki-red said:

My son is at Uni but also works at Morrisons. Anyone behind a counter or a screen doesn’t have to wear one but staff on the shop floor do.

A lot depends on the store as some stores are not making it compulsory for staff to wear one but are giving them the option if they want to.

[onewheeldave]

50 minutes ago, nikki-red said:

My son is at Uni but also works at Morrisons. Anyone behind a counter or a screen doesn’t have to wear one but staff on the shop floor do.

 

Morrisons may be breaking the law then, as it is not compulsory for shop workers to wear masks.

[Pettytom]

1 minute ago, onewheeldave said:

Morrisons may be breaking the law then, as it is not compulsory for shop workers to wear masks.

It isn’t compulsory to wear a Morrison’s uniform either. Unless you are working there.

 

 

[Thirsty Relic]

Businesses are free to serve and allow on their premises who they like (subject to anti-discriminatory laws etc).  The police can't be expected to patrol shops arresting non-wearers of masks.  Most people will probably wear them, for whatever reasoning.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[onewheeldave]

40 minutes ago, Pettytom said:

It isn’t compulsory to wear a Morrison’s uniform either. Unless you are working there.

 

 

Masks aren't uniforms. 

[melthebell]

52 minutes ago, onewheeldave said:

Morrisons may be breaking the law then, as it is not compulsory for shop workers to wear masks.

whys it breaking the law? you can still wear one if you wish

[Thirsty Relic]

I'm not sure about all this talk about the law.  Perhaps we ought to look at it from the point of view of Company Policy.  If a company decides it wants all its workers to wear a uniform, surely it can - it is a sensible request under their terms of employment.  If they also say that, especially in this crisis, a mask is part of that uniform, then that too seems fair and reasonable.  Logically, therefore,  it could even discipline staff if it chose to for not adhering to that policy.