Coronavirus - Part Two.

[whiteowl]

39 minutes ago, onewheeldave said:

Are they in Sheffield? Which dentists are they?

Mines at Low Edges, I had an abcess - is that classed as an emergency? I'm no expert on these things

 

1 hour ago, onewheeldave said:

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I was stunned earlier this week to find out that dental surgeries are STILL shut. 

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Which is blatently not true.

 

32 minutes ago, onewheeldave said:

That's what I thought, Whiteowl seemed to be saying him and his friend have been to the dentists, and he/she didn't say it was for emergency treatment.

No, I said my friend is a dentist - he's based in Mansfield and very much open and have been since 8th June I think.

Edited September 24, 2020 by whiteowl
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[Pettytom]

4 minutes ago, whiteowl said:

Mines at Low Edges, I had an abcess - is that classed as an emergency? I'm no expert on these things

 

Which is blatently not true.

 

No, I said my friend is a dentist - he's based in Mansfield and very much open and have been since 8th June I think.

My dentist is open. It’s not easy to get an appointment, but they are certainly open

[ECCOnoob]

3 hours ago, Pettytom said:

That’s alright then.

 

You should write to Matt Hancock with some new policy suggestions to save NHS funds.

That was not the point being made and you know it. Emotive responses like that are just fuel for derailing this thread.

 

Any death is tragic. However, the important question to be asked is should the deaths of 40,000 people, significant numbers of whom already had underlying conditions or other causes for their fatalities be sufficient grounds for causing widespread disruption, catastrophic effects to economy and in some cases risking death from other causes to the wider population.

 

Alarming as the alleged covid related death rate is.... thinking bigger picture it is still insignificant compared to the numbers of the national population. 

 

As others have pointed out it is all well and good the news, governments and every talking head focusing on the big scary numbers of covid infections but what no-one is talking about is how hard lockdowns, economic damage and cancelling other health services has potential to lead to severe damage or even risk death for everybody else.

 

Where exactly does the line get drawn.  41,862 dead looks scary.  0.06% dead doesn't.  

 

Anyone can cherry-pick numbers in headlines to make them look dramatic.  On the other hand its not wholly unreasonable to see why SOME people think there is a lot knee-jerk heavy handed reaction to try and find a solution to a problem that doesn't exist

Edited September 24, 2020 by ECCOnoob

[onewheeldave]

50 minutes ago, whiteowl said:

Mines at Low Edges, I had an abcess - is that classed as an emergency? I'm no expert on these things

 

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No, I said my friend is a dentist - he's based in Mansfield and very much open and have been since 8th June I think.

 

45 minutes ago, Pettytom said:

My dentist is open. It’s not easy to get an appointment, but they are certainly open

So they're basically 'open' for emergency treatment only?

[PRESLEY]

49 minutes ago, Pettytom said:

My dentist is open. It’s not easy to get an appointment, but they are certainly open

Only for Emergecy cases.

[tinfoilhat]

2 hours ago, onewheeldave said:

You can go on and on about the covid deaths, in the absence of getting some idea of the deaths that will result from the lockdown hysteria, it's fairly meaningless.

 

The vast majority of those 40,000 were in the main extremely ill and would likely have died in the very near future anyway.

So, you think it's a good idea to send cancer patients to a hospital to get chemo )which reduces the immune system) where there a load of covid patients?

37 minutes ago, ECCOnoob said:

That was not the point being made and you know it. Emotive responses like that are just fuel for derailing this thread.

 

Any death is tragic. However, the important question to be asked is should the deaths of 40,000 people, significant numbers of whom already had underlying conditions or other causes of for their fatalities be sufficient grounds for causing widespread disruption, catastrophic effects to economy and in some cases risking death from other causes to the wider population.

 

Alarming as the alleged covid related death rate is.... thinking bigger picture it is still insignificant compared to the numbers of the national population. 

 

As others have pointed out it is all well and good the news, governments and every talking head focusing on the big scary numbers of covid infections but what no-one is talking about is how hard lockdowns, economic damage and cancelling other health services has potential to lead to severe damage or even risk death for everybody else.

 

Where exactly does the line get drawn.  41,862 dead looks scary.  0.06% dead doesn't.  

 

Anyone can cherry-pick numbers in headlines to make them look dramatic.  On the other hand its not wholly unreasonable to see why SOME people think there is a lot knee-jerk heavy handed reaction to try and find a solution to a problem that doesn't exist

So what should we doing then? Open up as normal but lock granny away in total isolation for 12 months? 

 

We aren't doing much different to the rest of the planet are we?

[PRESLEY]

3 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

So, you think it's a good idea to send cancer patients to a hospital to get chemo )which reduces the immune system) where there a load of covid patients?

Aren't Covid patients on segregated wards?  I would have thought so.

[nikki-red]

4 minutes ago, PRESLEY said:

Aren't Covid patients on segregated wards?  I would have thought so.

Yes they are. Even if they’re suspected or have been exposed they’re placed in side rooms and barrier nursed until they have a couple of negative tests.

Most inpatients have a test before they’re admitted, and then if they’re still in hospital are retested every 5 days (on our ward anyway).

Edited September 24, 2020 by nikki-red

[PRESLEY]

2 minutes ago, nikki-red said:

Yes they are. Even if they’re suspected or have been exposed they’re placed in side rooms and barrier nursed until they have a couple of negative tests.

Most inpatients have a test before they’re admitted, and then if they’re still in hospital are retested every 5 days (on our ward anyway).

Cheers, now I can go and get a chest Xray I have been putting of for several moths, 

[altus]

10 minutes ago, PRESLEY said:

Cheers, now I can go and get a chest Xray I have been putting of for several moths, 

NHS England is even planning covid-free hospitals during a second wave. Some hospitals in England to be kept Covid-free in second wave

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A series of hospitals will be designated as coronavirus-free zones during the second wave of the outbreak in a significant policy shift designed to ensure the NHS continues treatment for cancer and other conditions, the Guardian has learned.

NHS England is determined not to repeat the widespread suspension of normal service that occurred in the first wave, which doctors and charities have criticised for damaging patients’ health, leading to more deaths and creating a backlog of millions of treatments.