tinfoilhat Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 8 minutes ago, MuteWitness said: Says ....could. refusing treatment for other illnesses and suicides continuing to rise But this is pure speculation like everything Boris says What do you think a covid case would do to people on say, a ward where people are getting treatment for cancer, or maybe a cardiac care unit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewheeldave Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Didn't someone say earlier that there was to be a vote about the potential lockdown to happen next week before the anouncment? If so, what has happened to that vote now?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delayed Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, onewheeldave said: Didn't someone say earlier that there was to be a vote about the potential lockdown to happen next week before the anouncment? If so, what has happened to that vote now?! Boris has said that a vote will still go ahead and these plans will start from Thursday IF agreed Edited October 31, 2020 by Delayed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuteWitness Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 minute ago, tinfoilhat said: What do you think a covid case would do to people on say, a ward where people are getting treatment for cancer, or maybe a cardiac care unit? Thought they were kept on seperate wards? 1 minute ago, Delayed said: Boris has said that a vote will still go ahead and these plans will start from Thursday IF agreed Still worth trying to contact MPs then do you think ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delayed Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, MuteWitness said: Thought they were kept on seperate wards? Still worth trying to contact MPs then do you think ? Yes but who's to say he hasn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 22 minutes ago, MuteWitness said: Well how many will covid kill? in theory, going unchecked 100s of thousands? a million, 2 million? who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewheeldave Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) 32 minutes ago, MuteWitness said: Well how many will covid kill? Whatever the number covid actually kills, you can be sure that the number of deaths the authorities attribute to covid, will be far, far higher. Especially when the true horrific consequences of deaths caused by their lockdown start to become apparent- at that point it is not in their best interests to pursue honesty with regard to the deaths attributed to covid. Deaths with covid, are not deaths from covid, especially now we are starting to see how many people have had covid and remained completely free of symptoms. 9 minutes ago, melthebell said: in theory, going unchecked 100s of thousands? a million, 2 million? who knows The same is true of course, of the numbers of deaths [caused by the lockdown] from mental health issues, unemployment, lack of access to medical treatment etc....... could be 100s of thousands? a million, 2 million? who knows? Edited October 31, 2020 by onewheeldave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikki-red Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, MuteWitness said: Thought they were kept on seperate wards? They are. Anyone with a positive test is moved to a dedicated Covid ward. If they were on a bay with other people before their result the whole bay is then treated as exposed and is barrier nursed. People who are booked in have to isolate before being admitted, obviously it’s a different matter for people admitted through A&E. Edited October 31, 2020 by nikki-red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, onewheeldave said: Whatever the number covid actually kills, you can be sure that the number of deaths the authorities attribute to covid, will be far, far higher. Especially when the true horrific consequences of deaths caused by their lockdown start to become apparent- at that point it is not in their best interests to pursue honesty with regard to the deaths attributed to covid. Deaths with covid, are not deaths from covid, especially now we are starting to see how many people have had covid and remained completely free of symptoms. The same is true of course, of the numbers of deaths [caused by the lockdown] from mental health issues, unemployment, lack of access to medical treatment etc....... could be 100s of thousands? a million, 2 million? who knows? I really wish youd lived through the second world war to see what REAL trauma looks like, this is a walk in the park compared, get a grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewheeldave Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 23 minutes ago, onewheeldave said: Didn't someone say earlier that there was to be a vote about the potential lockdown to happen next week before the anouncment? If so, what has happened to that vote now?! 21 minutes ago, Delayed said: Boris has said that a vote will still go ahead and these plans will start from Thursday IF agreed Are you sure- I didn't catch that in his broadcast, and none of the summeries seem to be picking up on it. 2 minutes ago, melthebell said: I really wish youd lived through the second world war to see what REAL trauma looks like, this is a walk in the park compared, get a grip I come from a minority group that has a nine times higher suicide rate than the national average [at the best of times] i.e. we tend to choose to die rather than endure the hostility inflicted upon us by this society which is created by, and for, neurotypicals who, in the main, seem unable to have empathy for any neurotype other than their own, and, again, that is in the best of times, and this current hysteria is only going to increase that. I do know what real trauma looks like, and any assumption that it must involve bombs and mutilations is somewhat blinkered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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