*_ash_* Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 That update tonight was a ****ing shambles. The government has lost the plot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRB Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 8 hours ago, *_ash_* said: That update tonight was a ****ing shambles. The government has lost the plot I totally agree. The scientists advise that it is prudent to act early and act hard . Instead we get encouraged to continue to social distance and to continue to wear masks. Then we see rows of Conservative MPs refusing to war masks. The PM likes to use the phrase flip flopping ,which is exactly what they are doing as regards the health of the public. And all just to satisfy a few of their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, RJRB said: I totally agree. The scientists advise that it is prudent to act early and act hard . Instead we get encouraged to continue to social distance and to continue to wear masks. Then we see rows of Conservative MPs refusing to war masks. The PM likes to use the phrase flip flopping ,which is exactly what they are doing as regards the health of the public. And all just to satisfy a few of their own. I am generally anti-lockdown, but if the science is telling us that there is a danger, we should be doing the easy things, like mask wearing and working from home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightrider Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 1 hour ago, El Cid said: I am generally anti-lockdown, but if the science is telling us that there is a danger, we should be doing the easy things, like mask wearing and working from home. Looks like a repeat of the last two big waves - deny there is a problem. refuse to do anything and then inevitably we have to go for a full lockdown to get things under control. You would think they had learnt a lesson by the third time that some measures early stops hard measures later! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 6 hours ago, El Cid said: I am generally anti-lockdown, but if the science is telling us that there is a danger, we should be doing the easy things, like mask wearing and working from home. Exactly, if it helps with stopping another full knockdown it's common sense. I work on the door in hospitality, virtually nobody comes in in a mask and those that do what one put it on after entering. It's the easiest thing in the world 4 hours ago, nightrider said: Looks like a repeat of the last two big waves - deny there is a problem. refuse to do anything and then inevitably we have to go for a full lockdown to get things under control. You would think they had learnt a lesson by the third time that some measures early stops hard measures later! And they've been pulled up on it by an inquiry Beggars belief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRB Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Jacob Rees Mogg has clarified the advice on wearing a face mask. If you are in a convivial and fraternal gathering(such as on the Conservative benches of the H of P) then a mask is unnecessary. This is so wrong on many levels😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 33 minutes ago, RJRB said: Jacob Rees Mogg has clarified the advice on wearing a face mask. If you are in a convivial and fraternal gathering(such as on the Conservative benches of the H of P) then a mask is unnecessary. This is so wrong on many levels😁 self entitled Missus randomly mentioned it the other day actually, said the difference between the Labour and Tory benches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top4718 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 One for the useless mask brigade - Wales where masks are still mandatory in public settings has the highest rate of infections in the UK, when will the penny drop for some, even Neil Ferguson (who's not particularly trustworthy tbf) said they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annie Bynnol Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 39 minutes ago, top4718 said: One for the useless mask brigade - Wales where masks are still mandatory in public settings has the highest rate of infections in the UK, when will the penny drop for some, even Neil Ferguson (who's not particularly trustworthy tbf) said they don't. Not true and misleading. A signature of the Conspiracy Theorists selective use of data. As of Thursday 21 October 2021 at 4:00pm from GOV.UKCoronavirus (COVID-19) in the UK Scotland (falling) 617,536 cases at 11,297.8 per 100,000 "where masks are still mandatory in public settings" England(rising) 7,347,703 12.993.3 Wales(mixed) 412,534 13,0151.4 "where masks are "still mandatory in public settings" Northern Ireland 263,448 13,898.5 "where masks are "still mandatory in public settings" Schoolchildren appear to be a major influence on the data. Scottish data is in line with children having been in school earlier (since mid August) and higher levels of vaccination. This interpretation can be tested if the level of infection fall off more rapidly in Scotland than in England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top4718 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, Annie Bynnol said: Not true and misleading. A signature of the Conspiracy Theorists selective use of data. As of Thursday 21 October 2021 at 4:00pm from GOV.UKCoronavirus (COVID-19) in the UK Scotland (falling) 617,536 cases at 11,297.8 per 100,000 "where masks are still mandatory in public settings" England(rising) 7,347,703 12.993.3 Wales(mixed) 412,534 13,0151.4 "where masks are "still mandatory in public settings" Northern Ireland 263,448 13,898.5 "where masks are "still mandatory in public settings" Schoolchildren appear to be a major influence on the data. Scottish data is in line with children having been in school earlier (since mid August) and higher levels of vaccination. This interpretation can be tested if the level of infection fall off more rapidly in Scotland than in England. Public Health Wales and Mark Drakeford disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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