Padders Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, onewheeldave said: And people wearing maks affects the mental health of others . But at least you don't get wet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avalunche Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 12 hours ago, onewheeldave said: Tell your doctor- there may well be a medical reason, in which case you could be exempt. Dave there is no need to consult a doctor or get any approval to become exempt. Simply deciding you are exempt is sufficient. Here is the link to the goverments website. There's even a nice card you can download and print off / show on your phone. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/face-coverings-when-to-wear-one-and-how-to-make-your-own/face-coverings-when-to-wear-one-and-how-to-make-your-own Exemption cards Those who have an age, health or disability reason for not wearing a face covering should not be routinely asked to give any written evidence of this, this includes exemption cards. No person needs to seek advice or request a letter from a medical professional about their reason for not wearing a face covering. Some people may feel more comfortable showing something that says they do not have to wear a face covering. This could be in the form of an exemption card, badge or even a home-made sign. This is a personal choice and is not necessary in law. Access exemption card templates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron99 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) You can argue all you like about face coverings / masks; which tiers certain parts of the country should be in; should we be in a 'circuit breaker' lockdown or one that lasts months but while ever we have a stupid minority blatantly ignoring simple advice to socially distance, we'll never get a grip on this until we have a vaccine that works. https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/warning-after-drinks-pelted-police-19100155 You'd have thought those moaning in Liverpool would have more sense? Edited October 14, 2020 by Baron99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewheeldave Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Arnold_Lane said: Yes, but that's irrational and caused by paranoia. Well it's not as I can back it up with reason. But, just supposing it was "irrational and caused by paranoia", it still scuppers the 'wearing a mask soley to ressure others' approach as the stress and ensuing harm to mental health is just as real 1 hour ago, Pettytom said: I think we will all be glad when this is over. Until then, we all need to look after each other. You don’t seem to be up for that. No. It's just that the subset of people I'm looking out for is a different subset to the ones you are looking out for. 1 hour ago, avalunche said: Dave there is no need to consult a doctor or get any approval to become exempt. Simply deciding you are exempt is sufficient. Here is the link to the goverments website. There's even a nice card you can download and print off / show on your phone. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/face-coverings-when-to-wear-one-and-how-to-make-your-own/face-coverings-when-to-wear-one-and-how-to-make-your-own Exemption cards Those who have an age, health or disability reason for not wearing a face covering should not be routinely asked to give any written evidence of this, this includes exemption cards. No person needs to seek advice or request a letter from a medical professional about their reason for not wearing a face covering. Some people may feel more comfortable showing something that says they do not have to wear a face covering. This could be in the form of an exemption card, badge or even a home-made sign. This is a personal choice and is not necessary in law. Access exemption card templates i know- I've directed several autistic and/or vulnerable people to that route- I assumed Anna would not be comfortable not masking unless assured she was exempt by a doctor. 1 hour ago, Pettytom said: I actually do understand your problems, probably better than you think I do. However, on balance, being upset at the sight of people wearing masks is a much lower priority than allowing millions of people to go about their daily lives reasonably normally. Interesting. What do you think my problems are? Why do you think you understand them better than I think you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchresearch Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Baron99 said: we'll never get a grip on this until we have a vaccine that works. https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/warning-after-drinks-pelted-police-19100155 You'd have thought those moaning in Liverpool would have more sense? No chance. These are the same ilk who gathered in huge crowds during lockdown to celebrate Liverpool's win. They cheered when rockets were fired at the Liver building and caused damage. But they'll be crying they're victims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold_Lane Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 28 minutes ago, onewheeldave said: Well it's not as I can back it up with reason. But, just supposing it was "irrational and caused by paranoia", it still scuppers the 'wearing a mask soley to ressure others' approach as the stress and ensuing harm to mental health is just as real No you can't. A person wearing a face covering poses no threat to you. Therefore, your finding it disturbing is irrational. You have linked it to the beginning of totalitarianism. That is paranoia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewheeldave Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Arnold_Lane said: No you can't. A person wearing a face covering poses no threat to you. Therefore, your finding it disturbing is irrational. You have linked it to the beginning of totalitarianism. That is paranoia. You are wrong. But, as I said, even if we assumed you be right, it still scuppers the 'wearing a mask soley to ressure others' approach as the stress and ensuing harm to mental health is just as real, isn't it? Edited October 14, 2020 by onewheeldave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold_Lane Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Just now, onewheeldave said: You are wrong. But, as I said, even if we assumed you be right, it still scuppers the 'wearing a mask soley to ressure others' approach as the stress and ensuing harm to mental health is just as real, isn't it? The mental health of the paranoid few does not trump the physical health of the majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewheeldave Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Arnold_Lane said: The mental health of the paranoid few does not trump the physical health of the majority. You've no evidence that it is 'only a few'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold_Lane Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Just now, onewheeldave said: You've no evidence that it is 'only a few'. Most people don't suffer from PPD unless you can prove otherwise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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