Anna B Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 2 hours ago, ECCOnoob said: ........in your uncorroborated opinion. Personally, I heard it all before. For some people no matter what figure gets put forward they will scream it never will be enough. Boy Who Cried Wolf syndrome. How many times over decades do we keep hearing the same....... the NHS is always allegedly destitute and on the brink of collapse, despite vast amounts being thrown at it each year...... Benefits are allegedly always too little for people get by, despite the fact that successive governments have made numerous tweaks and changes to not only the policies for the type of benefits available...The minimum wage is always allegedy too low and people struggling to survive, despite the fact that it is been subject to increases almost every single year since it's Inception.... Now suddenly the whines are starting that emergency Covid support is "not enough" for people to survive on despite the fact that it didn't even exist until the few weeks ago Taxpayer money is finite. Some people need to realise that and stop making ridiculous predictions just to do a bit of point scoring against the government. And yet there's always enough money for pet projects etc, and £7,000+ per day covid consultants, not to mention another £3,000 pay rise for every MP..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longcol Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Comparison of support packages to authorities placed in Tier 3 shows that they're pretty much the same £ per head of population. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/oct/21/tier-3-covid-lockdowns-how-each-regions-support-package-compares Greater Manchester - £29 pp South Yorksh ire - £29.29 pp Liverpool / Merseyside - £28.21 pp Lancashire - £28 pp What I'm not clear about is how long this money is supposed to last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, ECCOnoob said: Don't presume what you THINK I know and don't know about, you just set yourself up to look foolish. I have family members who are dependent on benefits for life and I've had to deal with the social services, support organisations and local government during both my past legal work and personal life. Also, you cannot seriously believe that I went from comprehensive school to comfortable salary overnight. I have had plenty of periods on low or no income myself in my career. None of any of the above changes my perfectly valid point. Public money is not infinite and some people's definitions of "poverty" and "hardship" in this country really needs a reality check It is NOT infinate, but its frankly alarming what they are finding money for (without any kind of over sight) and what they're happy to vote against. Edited October 21, 2020 by tinfoilhat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron99 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 4 Nottingham University students fined £10,000 each & suspended from the university for organising party & lying to police. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-54631524 Good but its just a shame that we've had a number of high profile individuals who seem to be able to flout the law & escape punishment? As well as the home grown law breakers, saw a tv report last week which showed American rapper, Kanye West, coming out of a hotel in London, a day after landing, when in fact he should have been in isolation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Baron99 said: 4 Nottingham University students fined £10,000 each & suspended from the university for organising party & lying to police. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-54631524 Good but its just a shame that we've had a number of high profile individuals who seem to be able to flout the law & escape punishment? As well as the home grown law breakers, saw a tv report last week which showed American rapper, Kanye West, coming out of a hotel in London, a day after landing, when in fact he should have been in isolation. Stanley Johnson remains at large, doing what he wants with no consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longcol Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Baron99 said: 4 Nottingham University students fined £10,000 each & suspended from the university for organising party & lying to police. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-54631524 Good but its just a shame that we've had a number of high profile individuals who seem to be able to flout the law & escape punishment? As well as the home grown law breakers, saw a tv report last week which showed American rapper, Kanye West, coming out of a hotel in London, a day after landing, when in fact he should have been in isolation. Perhaps going for a drive to test his eyes. Quite legitimate so I understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin C Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 1 hour ago, tinfoilhat said: Stanley Johnson remains at large, doing what he wants with no consequences. 1 hour ago, Longcol said: Perhaps going for a drive to test his eyes. Quite legitimate so I understand. Yawn. Please change the record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ormester Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 8 hours ago, West 77 said: Do be daft. Being concerned about the high number of local hospital admissions and not wasting time before new local restrictions are implemented are not reasons why he should resign So not selling us down the river? 6 hours ago, Longcol said: Comparison of support packages to authorities placed in Tier 3 shows that they're pretty much the same £ per head of population. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/oct/21/tier-3-covid-lockdowns-how-each-regions-support-package-compares Greater Manchester - £29 pp South Yorksh ire - £29.29 pp Liverpool / Merseyside - £28.21 pp Lancashire - £28 pp What I'm not clear about is how long this money is supposed to last. It's not a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 4 hours ago, ormester said: So not selling us down the river? It's not a lot Depends what it's for, how many businesses will close? TBH there won't be too many pubs that don't do food, compared Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petemcewan Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 (edited) The Great Barrington Declaration. Travelling home to Sheffield from Hull. I heard on the radio a talking head slip neatly from criticising lock down to banging the drum for the Declaration.She was very slick with her presentation, that by embracing the terms of the Declaration it will provide a way around the shortcomings of lock down. Don't fall for the Declaration and don't give it traction. It is neither science or epidemiology. It's the product of an American libertarian economic Forum. The poor mugs who have signed up to it have been duped . https://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/view/experts-forcefully-push-back-on-barrington-declaration Herd Immunity is the province of Veterinarians. Quote The herd immunity approach championed by the Great Barrington Declaration would, if actually put into practice, prove disastrous for society as a whole and the healthcare system in particular. Edited October 22, 2020 by petemcewan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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