the_bloke Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, Longcol said: No. Doesn't make any real sense and avoids the pertinent question about what's happening now. It makes plenty of sense. If Covid-19 accelerated the deaths of people with underlying health conditions that one average would only have lived another ten years, then in later years the death rate will decrease as those people (to be frank) aren't around to die at their expected point in time. As I linked in an earlier post by the way, Spain now has a worse excess death rate than the UK. You need a newer source than May 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longcol Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, the_bloke said: It makes plenty of sense. If Covid-19 accelerated the deaths of people with underlying health conditions that one average would only have lived another ten years, then in later years the death rate will decrease as those people (to be frank) aren't around to die at their expected point in time. That's on average another ten years - some might have only lived months - some might have lived 50 plus years. Why would you expect a spike in 10 as per your previous post #301? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 2 hours ago, melthebell said: You've obviously not been keeping up with the news then, as that's one of the reasons some americans have given for refusing to wear masks, including on banners at demonstrations Well I did mention a while back in the Trump thread that as far as the USA is concerned and especially Trump they can do what they like as it's not me living or voting there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewheeldave Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 11 hours ago, Baron99 said: Here you go to all the naysayers regarding wearing a face mask / covering. As the doctor says, "Stop making stuff up.... This is a lie made up as an excuse by those who believe the pandemic is a hoax and that wearing a mask somehow encroaches on their rights." https://www.standard.co.uk/news/health/nhs-doctor-masks-oxygen-video-joshua-wolrich-a4499876.html Will you take some advice from someone on the front line? It is important to note that he is saying that wearing a mask does not decrease blood oxygen levels. He is not claiming that masks do not restrict breathing. Masks clearly do restrict breathing, that is why the govt allows people who are disabled and/or people who have respiratory issues to be exempt from masking. I am not aware of any people who are anti compulsory masking making a claim that wearing a mask reduces blood oxygen levels- [I'm not saying none have- just that I don't know of any]; what many are saying is that wearing a mask restricts breathing, which is a very different thing. 3 hours ago, Joe-b-1 said: Like this clown He says 'I can't breathe', he does not claim that his blood oxygen is low. 4 hours ago, covfeffe said: I haven't got a problem wearing masks but I do a physical job and I find myself pulling it down a little for a period so my nose isn't covered with it, because it gets very warm and close with it on. If you measure you blood oxygen levels using the device in the video, you'll find that, despite you finding the mask restricting your breathing, your blood oxygen levels will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 6 hours ago, apelike said: Well I did mention a while back in the Trump thread that as far as the USA is concerned and especially Trump they can do what they like as it's not me living or voting there. That's the problem though, with international air travel never really been stopped, and the government making exceptions to quarenteen left, right and centre, that's not really a safe option 8 hours ago, Joe-b-1 said: Like this clown They should try covid-19 and see what not breathing is really like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Its come to light that Vallance insisted Sage had recommended an immediate total lockdown on 16 March, so Boris wasnt following expert advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron99 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 (edited) Not so long ago, walked past a very small group of COVID-19 deniers, setting up a banner & with a few placards, just outside the Peace Gardens. Apparently, COVID-19 doesn't exist, (mention that to someone at the Northern General, should you come down with respiratory problems in the next month or so), and it's the start of an experiment thought up by governments & scientists as a way to control us all. Edited July 18, 2020 by Baron99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 7 hours ago, melthebell said: That's the problem though, with international air travel never really been stopped, and the government making exceptions to quarenteen left, right and centre, that's not really a safe option What problem? When you have around 35-40% of the US population that actually believe that a Zombie apocalypse is possible and are preparing for one the the mind just boggles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pettytom Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 23 minutes ago, apelike said: What problem? When you have around 35-40% of the US population that actually believe that a Zombie apocalypse is possible and are preparing for one the the mind just boggles. Preparing for a zombie apocalypse might just be a good idea. I had people laughing at my Brexit stockpile, but it came in handy during lockdown. Mind you, the stockpile was mostly decent coffee and french wine, with some tinned stuff thrown in for effect😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 The same people that were planning for the apocalypse are the ones blubbing like babies because they couldn't go to the hairdressers and can't breathe when they have to wear a mask occasionly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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