redruby Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 I wish Tony Blair would leave decisions about vaccinations to scientists instead of making well meant but potentially harmful suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyofborg Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 37 minutes ago, redruby said: I wish Tony Blair would leave decisions about vaccinations to scientists instead of making well meant but potentially harmful suggestions. Does anyone pay attention to what he says anymore? I can't say I'd let him colour any decisions I make regarding vaccination. I'd much rather rely on advice from our beloved Prime Minister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redruby Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, andyofborg said: Does anyone pay attention to what he says anymore? I can't say I'd let him colour any decisions I make regarding vaccination. I'd much rather rely on advice from our beloved Prime Minister. His views are still getting media attention and there are enough ill informed views about vaccines circulating without adding this into the mix. Johnson has made umpteen mistakes in the pandemic but doesn’t make an ex Labour PM beyond reproach. Edited December 24, 2020 by redruby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pettytom Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 8 hours ago, Thirsty Relic said: so - the more illnesses that you have, the less likely you are to have the next one? I would have thought < .... snip, a load of ill informed and potentially dangerous stuff.> Maybe you should go a bit of reading. I’m not being sarky, by the way, there is so much confusion in your post that you really do need to find out more. Here are some sources to start you off: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/vaccinations/ Have a read, follow the links. Have a happy Christmas too 😀 8 hours ago, Thirsty Relic said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightrider Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, RiffRaff said: That's sort of what intrigues me about this farce at Dover. The truckers are going to have to be tested before they can leave. Bear in mind that some - most? - of the trucks will have 2 drivers to allow for haulage rules and reg's. It could end up that one tests positive, and the other not....but the one who tests negative should surely be regarded as a risk as they've spent umpteen hours together. Those who test positive are supposed to isolate in "local hotels" for ten days (14? not sure). Who pays for that? in countries that do this the person who has to quarantine has to pay. 3 hours ago, andyofborg said: it's a virus not a bacteria and evolution has been making new versions of all sorts of oranisms for 3 billion years, it's got quite good at it, colds are caused by rhinoviruses and they are a totally different breed to the coronaviruses having one is unlikely to help against the other, Colds are caused by both coronaviruses and rhinoviruses. And the former is hypothesised by some scientists to give some immunity against covid. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_cold#Viruses https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronavirus#Infection_in_humans Edited December 24, 2020 by nightrider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petemcewan Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 (edited) El Cid. I cannot answer you first question. But without boring you with the whole of the first link I provided. The following is taken from the Discussion section. Quote The objective of this study was to evaluate the proof-of-concept of a new SARS-CoV vaccine strategy based on a standard measles vaccine engineered to express the SARS-CoV spike protein. This strategy might provide a safe recombinant vaccine to protect from SARS-CoV in the regions that might become affected by SARS-CoV re-emergence. I put the thread on because it demonstrates to me how some people don't wait around. They get up and get the get go-and take charge of their future. We can't get a straight answer as to how many people have already been vaccinated. So my mate thought ,"bug... " that. If it's good for a mouse. It might give me some protection". The mRNA vaccine s will more than likely outstrip this MMR vax. But,Hey Ho,Jingle Bells. When needs must. Edited December 24, 2020 by petemcewan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuteWitness Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 (edited) Surprised that there was on 50 cases week ending 20/12 I'm I reading this right as it can't be https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/notifiable-diseases-weekly-reports-for-2020 Edited December 24, 2020 by MuteWitness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 9 minutes ago, MuteWitness said: Surprised that there was on 50 cases week ending 20/12 I'm I reading this right as it can't be https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/notifiable-diseases-weekly-reports-for-2020 But there was a 2% increase expected the following week to 51 and a further 2% rise the next week. The good news is that 2021 will see it plummet to 1 case in the first week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirsty Relic Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Pettytom said: Maybe you should go a bit of reading. I’m not being sarky, by the way, there is so much confusion in your post that you really do need to find out more. I was replying to the comments of a previous poster. If you read my post in context, I'm sure it would make more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmiss Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Given Christmas Day mingling and images of the queues for Boxing Day sales (what are they buying?) are we set for a national tier 4 aka another lockdown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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