petemcewan Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) My apologies to the Forum. I'm erasing the RT reference. I got it utterly wrong. If fact, Cross Talk was attacking :The Great Reset Project,Technocracy and Junk rt PCR Tests. I'll leave the link in place. Some may find it interesting. Edited December 30, 2020 by petemcewan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidorry Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 3 hours ago, petemcewan said: . https://www.rt.com/op-ed/507336-great-reset-world-economic-forum/ In addition, I will be "well glad"(young person's parlance) to see the back of 2020. In anticipation,I wish everybody on the Forum,a healthy 2021. Note: I wish the Gov would hurry up with the Vaccination Programme. The Russians are already vaccinating 60yr old and upwards. I have a Russian relative who lives in Moscow and he is over 80 and he has not had his yet. The only ones of a younger age who are being vaccinated are the key workers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 18 minutes ago, West 77 said: Excellent news that the Oxford / AstraZenaca vaccine has been approved by our own regulator and will start being given out from Monday. One dose gives 70% protection and it makes sense given the circumstances for the second dose to be given up to three months later allowing more individuals to receive their first dose faster. I think everybody should be tested first before receiving the vaccine to see if they have any virus antibodies present and had the infection in the past. It seems that many have had this virus without knowing or showing symptoms and they should be at the back of the queue to allow others who are vulnerable to get it first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, West 77 said: I don't think that is practical. The most vulnerable are already at the front of the queue. Now the Oxford / AstraZeneca has been approved there shouldn't be a shortage of vaccines available to all. The big issue is the huge task of vaccination the whole population in a short period of time. I cant see why not. It would surely show just how many have already been infected who have had either none or just mild symptoms and that would be important data. Its not about any shortages either but whether some people actually need to be vaccinated. We don't need, and probably wont get the whole population vaccinated either unless this is made compulsory. At the moment we still do not know how long people will be protected for once vaccinated or for that matter if being vaccinated can stop the vaccinated person from spreading it on. We also don't know how long any immunity build up in people who have had it lasts. The more data we can get in the quickest time will be of help in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bargepole23 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 hour ago, apelike said: I cant see why not. It would surely show just how many have already been infected who have had either none or just mild symptoms and that would be important data. Its not about any shortages either but whether some people actually need to be vaccinated. We don't need, and probably wont get the whole population vaccinated either unless this is made compulsory. At the moment we still do not know how long people will be protected for once vaccinated or for that matter if being vaccinated can stop the vaccinated person from spreading it on. We also don't know how long any immunity build up in people who have had it lasts. The more data we can get in the quickest time will be of help in the future. I can understand that the data would be valuable but I would rather see all efforts and resources funneled into vaccination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pettytom Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Bargepole23 said: I can understand that the data would be valuable but I would rather see all efforts and resources funneled into vaccination. I think you are right. Just imagine the resources needed to test people before vaccination. All the advice that I’ve read from professional bodies says that you should still be vaccinated even if you’ve had covid. Other data can be gathered in other ways. I’ve got a testing kit sitting in my back room at the moment, because I’ve volunteered to take part in some research. That’s the way to get information. It also leaves the clinical staff free to do clinical stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollingJ Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 9 minutes ago, Pettytom said: I think you are right. Just imagine the resources needed to test people before vaccination. All the advice that I’ve read from professional bodies says that you should still be vaccinated even if you’ve had covid. Other data can be gathered in other ways. I’ve got a testing kit sitting in my back room at the moment, because I’ve volunteered to take part in some research. That’s the way to get information. It also leaves the clinical staff free to do clinical stuff. EEK I'm in agreement with you for once, @Pettytom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pettytom Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, RollingJ said: EEK I'm in agreement with you for once, @Pettytom You know it makes sense😁 Anyway, I’m always right. Honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollingJ Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 13 minutes ago, Pettytom said: You know it makes sense😁 Anyway, I’m always right. Honest. Of course. 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Pettytom said: I think you are right. Just imagine the resources needed to test people before vaccination. It may delay the uptake but that's all and the resources are mainly there anyway otherwise there would be no vaccinations going on at the moment. Blood testing for antibodies just takes longer that's all although its not as simple as getting a jab in the arm. Quote All the advice that I’ve read from professional bodies says that you should still be vaccinated even if you’ve had covid. But what data are these professional bodies relying on to form that conclusion? By vaccinating those that have already had it it means that any data regards future protection from antibody response without having the vaccine is lost. Quote Other data can be gathered in other ways. I’ve got a testing kit sitting in my back room at the moment, because I’ve volunteered to take part in some research. That’s the way to get information. It also leaves the clinical staff free to do clinical stuff. What does that testing kit check for and how many are you checking? Edited December 30, 2020 by apelike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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