nightrider Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 49 minutes ago, nikki-red said: The advice for the second dose has always been between 3 and 12 weeks. Previously they were aiming for around the 3, whereas now it’ll be nearer to the 12. Either is apparently perfectly safe and effective, it’s simply to free up time to give more people the first dose. My work colleagues that have had their first have been told not to turn up for their second appointment and they’ll all be rescheduled. Pfizer have stated today that the second dose of their vaccine must be at around 21 days. There is no evidence the vaccine is effective if given at 12 weeks. What do the government know that they don’t? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirsty Relic Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 2 hours ago, RiffRaff said: On a lighter note, my wife is sitting approximately 10 feet away from me as I type. We both have android 'phones, but not the same model. We both downed the covid tracker thingy whenit first came out. I'm in Derbyshire, and therefore tier 4. My phone confirmed this early this morning. She's in tier 3 - even now - according to her phone. She's refusing to make me a coffee, because I'm a "tier 4 scuzzer". Not a good start to a new year! 😉 Sounds like the new year will be starting in tiers for you two. Sorry to hear that - all the best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bargepole23 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 2 hours ago, nightrider said: Pfizer have stated today that the second dose of their vaccine must be at around 21 days. There is no evidence the vaccine is effective if given at 12 weeks. What do the government know that they don’t? Have they actually stated that? They have said they have no evidence of efficacy with the longer interval. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightrider Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, Bargepole23 said: Have they actually stated that? They have said they have no evidence of efficacy with the longer interval. yes I believe thats what I read - 21 days because thats what was tested and they just don't know if anything else would work. In particular they don't know if the immunity from 1 jab even lasts 12 weeks, unless the second is given after 21 days. Madness we are making such a gamble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiffRaff Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 I'm just back from a walk with the dog, basically along the Sheffield - Chesterfield Road. It's what now - 10pm? New Years Eve. Either....a lot of people are heading home in their cars - from where?! - or there are a lot of people heading for NYE meets in other houses. The traffic along here is no different to a normal night. So much for 'stay at home'.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longcol Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 13 minutes ago, RiffRaff said: I'm just back from a walk with the dog, basically along the Sheffield - Chesterfield Road. It's what now - 10pm? New Years Eve. Either....a lot of people are heading home in their cars - from where?! - or there are a lot of people heading for NYE meets in other houses. The traffic along here is no different to a normal night. So much for 'stay at home'.... Must be a lot of folk needing eyetests................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliewag Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Essex has one of the highest covid rates in the country yet the police have issued fines totalling &18000 to idiots attending NYE partys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiffRaff Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, charliewag said: Essex has one of the highest covid rates in the country yet the police have issued fines totalling &18000 to idiots attending NYE partys. See post #3450. Sadly, all very predictable. BBC Look North, lunchtime today. Party broken up in Sheffield, 70 people in a flat supposed to house 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Piece in the paper about the many folk trying to volunteer to help with the jabs (retired doctors and nurses and the like,) but prevented by the mountain of expensive red tape and paperwork, including 21 (ridiculous) documents they must upload to show they've been on courses like 'Equality, diversity and human rights' 'Preventing radicalisation level 1' and 'Fire safety.' These are medics with years of experience. I thought this was an emergency and the sooner we get people vaccinated the better. Is there anything this country can't **** up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, Anna B said: Piece in the paper about the many folk trying to volunteer to help with the jabs (retired doctors and nurses and the like,) but prevented by the mountain of expensive red tape and paperwork, including 21 (ridiculous) documents they must upload to show they've been on courses like 'Equality, diversity and human rights' 'Preventing radicalisation level 1' and 'Fire safety.' These are medics with years of experience. I thought this was an emergency and the sooner we get people vaccinated the better. Is there anything this country can't **** up? I agree that we need checks, balances and training. But we're trying to do it now. Not in August or September, now. Anyone fancy a side bet that the Germans will have vaccinated more than us by the end of January despite being a month behind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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