Anna B Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 (edited) 29 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said: I agree that we need checks, balances and training. But we're trying to do it now. Not in August or September, now. Anyone fancy a side bet that the Germans will have vaccinated more than us by the end of January despite being a month behind? One ex doctor quoted, 'I applied to help in the pandemic in April, but heard nothing until I was called to an uninformative zoom meeting in November, after which there was silence again.' Another potential medical volunteer complained that after spending 2 full days on his application, 'he was loosing the will to continue...' Another retired fully qualified professional called it 'insulting.' We are going to need an army of volunteers and of course some checks and balances are necessary, but does an ex GP really need to complete an online course in 'data security awareness,' 'moving and handling,' and 'conflict resolution' among several others to qualify? Edited January 1, 2021 by Anna B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pettytom Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 1 minute ago, West 77 said: Germany are part of the EU27 bloc vaccine program. At the moment only one vaccine being Pfizer has been approved for use in the EU. This week the EU increased their order by 100 million doses making it a total of 300 million doses for all of the EU27 bloc. In the same week the UK regulator approved the rollout of a second vaccine for the UK being the Oxford/AstraZenca in which the UK have ordered 100 million doses just for UK people. The rollout of the Oxford/AstraZenca vaccine starts on Monday. Yes, I fancy a bet. Are you prepared to put your money where your mouth is? I’ll join too. The EU have messed this one up a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, West 77 said: Germany are part of the EU27 bloc vaccine program. At the moment only one vaccine being Pfizer has been approved for use in the EU. This week the EU increased their order by 100 million doses making it a total of 300 million doses for all of the EU27 bloc. In the same week the UK regulator approved the rollout of a second vaccine for the UK being the Oxford/AstraZenca in which the UK have ordered 100 million doses just for UK people. The rollout of the Oxford/AstraZenca vaccine starts on Monday. Yes, I fancy a bet. Are you prepared to put your money where your mouth is? Certainly. 9 minutes ago, Pettytom said: I’ll join too. The EU have messed this one up a bit. But we've ordered alot, we haven't got alot. We haven't got a network set up where we can vaccinate people in serious numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, West 77 said: Tell me how much you are prepared to wager. Yes, we have ordered a lot and supply is going to be a bigger issue than setting up a network to vaccinate the people in serious numbers which is one reason why the gap between the two doses given to individuals has been increased. It's the main reason, one great swathes of the medical community are uncomfortable with. And there's still time for a U turn, but they've got the schools one to do first. Tenner for your chosen charity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litotes Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 So now the UK has decided it knows better than the creators of the vaccine, and are not doing the 2 jabs think in the recommended timescale, who is liable if it all goes horribly wrong? I hope that the Government is willing to shoulder any blame. But good old teflon Boris will blame someone else I am sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirsty Relic Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, West 77 said: The UK vaccines regulator MHRA who have the responsibility to approve vaccines before they can be given out have recommended the gap between the two doses can be a maximum of 12 weeks. The UK Government are following the advice of the vaccine regulator in a time of a national emergency. The thinking behind the decision is that more lives will be saved as a consequence of having a longer period of a time between individuals having two vaccines which will allow more individuals to have one vaccine dose during a period of time. I'm gob gobsmacked the Government are being criticised for following the advise of the UK vaccine regulator in order to save more lives. Well, if Pfiser made it and recommended a much shorter gap, I'm with them. They developed it so surely they know more about it than the regulator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 (edited) Just been revealed that the Government want all primary schools in London to remain shut after Christmas. It comes after the Education Secretary said only on yesterday that he is “absolutely confident” there will be no further delays to school reopenings Covid: All London primary schools to stay shut after government U-turn | ITV News Edited January 1, 2021 by Mister M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Gee Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Mister M said: Just been revealed that the Government want all primary schools in London to remain shut after Christmas. It comes after the Education Secretary said only on yesterday that he is “absolutely confident” there will be no further delays to school reopenings Covid: All London primary schools to stay shut after government U-turn | ITV News What a useless incompetent halfwit. Edited January 1, 2021 by Mister Gee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 25 minutes ago, Mister M said: Just been revealed that the Government want all primary schools in London to remain shut after Christmas. It comes after the Education Secretary said only on yesterday that he is “absolutely confident” there will be no further delays to school reopenings Covid: All London primary schools to stay shut after government U-turn | ITV News Oh my goodness, what a surprise. I never saw that coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 27 minutes ago, Mister Gee said: What a useless incompetent halfwit. I think he's almost outdone Chris Grayling in the uselessness stakes. That really does take some doing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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