RiffRaff Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Now this is what you call a lockdown! All people forbidden to leave their homes after 05.00 this Thursday...for 11 days! Very few exemptions, apparently. Not even supermarkets will be open - folk will have to rely on deliveries. This is the way it is in Lebanon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightrider Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, RiffRaff said: Now this is what you call a lockdown! All people forbidden to leave their homes after 05.00 this Thursday...for 11 days! Very few exemptions, apparently. Not even supermarkets will be open - folk will have to rely on deliveries. This is the way it is in Lebanon. Is this a joke? There is no way the supermarkets have capacity to deliver food. You'd be lucky to even get a slot in the next 2 weeks if you tried now! And panic buyers will strip the shelves bare if they have announced this. I hope you mean this is in Lebanon, not that we are copying something that was done in Lebanon?! Edited January 12, 2021 by nightrider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiffRaff Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, gamezone07 said: Obviously you have no breathing problem issues, etc Not as bad as having no breath at all.... 8 minutes ago, nightrider said: Is this a joke? There is no way the supermarkets have capacity to deliver food. You'd be lucky to even get a slot in the next 2 weeks if you tried now! And panic buyers will strip the shelves bare if they have announced this. I hope you mean this is in Lebanon, not that we are copying something that was done in Lebanon?! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-55631398 and yes, that's why I wrote "This is the way it is in Lebanon". Edited January 12, 2021 by RiffRaff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewheeldave Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 15 hours ago, Jim Hardie said: If there are exemptions, the policy is not worth a light. If you can’t wear one, get your shopping delivered. Of course it is 'worth a light'- look around you- most are wearing a mask which means less transmission. Your assumption that all mask exempt people have access to food delivery is very naive. 9 hours ago, Becky B said: Did he ride there though? 7 miles isn't far, on a bike... The risk of transmission outdoors is much lower than where people are congregating indoors. 8 hours ago, redruby said: I don’t believe there is any limit on how far people can travel during outdoor exercise and if they are genuinely exercising I can’t see much point in there being a limit on time or distance as the risks are tiny when done within guidelines. This government has done a lot wrong in the pandemic but one thing they have got right is recognising the importance of exercise. 5 hours ago, nightrider said: The risk of transmission outside is extremely low. I doubt that is what is driving the pandemic. No point focussing on people going for a walk in the countryside - makes a nice headline, but won't stop the virus spreading which is mostly caused by indoors settings. Good to see that more people are aware of the extremely low transmission in outdoor spaces, and, the value of exercise. Being fit and healthy is one of the best defences against this, and other viruses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Hardie Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 52 minutes ago, onewheeldave said: Of course it is 'worth a light'- look around you- most are wearing a mask which means less transmission. Responsible people were doing that already. If “I’m exempt” is all that has to be said, the policy is window dressing by the supermarkets. Nobody should be allowed in without a mask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becky B Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 9 hours ago, redruby said: Ah, but did Johnson really need to visit Bristol in person? I suppose the visit falls under ‘work related’ travel so is not breaking any rules but there’s a lot of talk about acting in the spirit of lockdown and, to me anyway, that journey and meeting people in person in Bristol was not essential. I don’t believe there is any limit on how far people can travel during outdoor exercise and if they are genuinely exercising I can’t see much point in there being a limit on time or distance as the risks are tiny when done within guidelines. This government has done a lot wrong in the pandemic but one thing they have got right is recognising the importance of exercise. Agreed! I'm quite passionate about this - it's a bit of a hobby horse of mine anyway, outside of the pandemic situation. We'll be having a deconditioning pandemic - predicted in March, and it is having an effect on the elderly population. Also agree people are getting blase about the lockdown. And I feel like a lot of people just don't get social distancing. Though I did read an interesting piece in the BMJ about using "lockdown fatigue" as a term, as it diverts blame onto the individual rather than the government for overall handling of the situation, which gave me pause for thought... https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2021/01/07/pandemic-fatigue-how-adherence-to-covid-19-regulations-has-been-misrepresented-and-why-it-matters/?fbclid=IwAR3GfLJMXC5_Wxmcy15FOq1AHFlyOquy0TRtpEBqmvwryEabS-nVF0LZ6Xo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redruby Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 2 hours ago, West 77 said: I expect the British Prime Minister to carry on doing what is expected of a Prime Minister in normal times during the pandemic. I don't have a problem whoever is Prime Minister carrying on doing duties and making journeys around the UK which someone who is not Prime Minister would be judged as non essential. To be quite frank the media, political opponents and the social media users are an embarrassment when they target Boris Johnson for criticism for carrying out day to day duties. BJ ought to be setting an example. This kind of thing sends out mixed messages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, nightrider said: The risk of transmission outside is extremely low. I doubt that is what is driving the pandemic. No point focussing on people going for a walk in the countryside - makes a nice headline, but won't stop the virus spreading which is mostly caused by indoors settings. As others have said far to many companies think their workers are key workers. Perhaps because financial support for shutting down is not good enough? Absolutely. This obsession with how far can you go for a bike ride, what's local and what isn't, whether or not it's OK to drive somewhere to go for a walk - it's such a red herring. It takes the focus away from behaviours that really do constitute transmission risks. I also worry that if people think they might get into trouble meeting a friend for a walk, they might be more tempted to meet up indoors. Even people meeting in legitimate bubbles are better off doing this outdoors if they can. Edited January 12, 2021 by Olive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron99 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 All this "You must stay local" is a bit vague. Relatives of mine in the Irish Republic tell me that they are only allowed to travel 5km from home, unless the journey is covered by their low number of exceptions. Simple. You have a defined distance that everyone, citizens, police are clear about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longcol Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Baron99 said: All this "You must stay local" is a bit vague. Relatives of mine in the Irish Republic tell me that they are only allowed to travel 5km from home, unless the journey is covered by their low number of exceptions. Simple. You have a defined distance that everyone, citizens, police are clear about. In France, we were only allowed 1km from our home for exercise. Glad we live in the countryside, must have been pretty awful for people living in cities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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