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Coronavirus - Part Two.


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7 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

Thankyou!

 

I don't live alone thankfully. It's nothing major, a few aches and pains and a headache and feeling a bit rough. No cough, no change in taste, or temperature  so not worried. But I thought I'd feel superhuman and be able to pick up WiFi with Bill Gates chip by now!

 

For balance though, my Mum (79) had the AZ jab at the end of January and had absolutely zero side effects, not even a sore arm.

That comes for many with the second jab for some people in tests - the rest are expected to get that capability with the 3rd jab.  Still, we'll all have got it by Xmas.  Expect announcements from Microsoft/Government in due course.

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17 minutes ago, Thirsty Relic said:

That comes for many with the second jab for some people in tests - the rest are expected to get that capability with the 3rd jab.  Still, we'll all have got it by Xmas.  Expect announcements from Microsoft/Government in due course.

Google maps would be handy.

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2 hours ago, petemcewan said:

Thirsty Relic.

Moderna and Pfizer are working at modifying their vaccines so that they give protection against variants.

 

Pfizer has said it's exploring adding a 3rd booster shot

that specially targets the SA variant.

 

 

Thanks Pete - this adds to my post #4397 that said the Government are planning a 3rd jab in the Autumn to target the variants that the current jab do not do well with - and gave a link to the news that Oxford will have a jab ready by then that targets them. 

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Re: Covid vaccinations passports etc.  IMO These should not be made compulsory by either authoritarian or coercive means, until all the research is in place regarding long term effects of the vaccines.

 

Older people have less to lose than a young person, and a lot to gain from mitigating perhaps the worst effects of covid, so should benefit from having it, but if it was found in future for example to reduce fertility, then who could blame young people for not wanting to risk it. They have given up an awful lot already due to covid, they are entitled to a free choice in this matter. By all means encourage them to have it if they are happy to, and hope that herd immunity do the rest.

 

Older people can continue to take whatever precautions they see fit if they wish.

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59 minutes ago, Anna B said:

Re: Covid vaccinations passports etc.  IMO These should not be made compulsory by either authoritarian or coercive means, until all the research is in place regarding long term effects of the vaccines.

 

Older people have less to lose than a young person, and a lot to gain from mitigating perhaps the worst effects of covid, so should benefit from having it, but if it was found in future for example to reduce fertility, then who could blame young people for not wanting to risk it. They have given up an awful lot already due to covid, they are entitled to a free choice in this matter. By all means encourage them to have it if they are happy to, and hope that herd immunity do the rest.

 

Older people can continue to take whatever precautions they see fit if they wish.

Mixing ethical and medical issues just leads to confusion delay and more deaths.

First lets get as many people protected as quickly as possible.

Let us monitor how the disease is behaving/changing and decide how it is best controlled and how best people all people are protected.

 

I would expect that people of any age who deal with public at this stage  to take measures to protect themselves, their families, friends, work colleagues, transport drivers, shopworkers and anybody else. 

 

The virus is not ageist. The virus won't wait to mutate for long term studies. The virus is not ethical or political.

I am more than happy to accept the risk that is posed by those who cannot be vaccinated and who need the protection of mass immunization.

 

The issue  of "vaccine passports" is a media and an invention of the chattering classes. How can we possibly object to something that has not been defined? Is it to do with travel, international travel, work places, shops, restaurants ....?

 

Declarations of fitness to work/travel, quarantine regulations etc have been around for a thousand+ years.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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So, someone has been to Brazil via Paris and Switzerland recently and brought back a virulent strain of Covid, and failed to put their contact details on their test documents. I hope they had a bloody good reason for going there. Also, what kind of inbound controls are we operating, where someone has to be tested but can't be traced?

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